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Home » City Government » Council » Minutes Archives; 2000 - 2003 » 2001 Council Minutes » November 20, 2001
November 20, 2001
The Lindon City Council held a regularly scheduled meeting on Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 7:00 P.M. in the Lindon City Center Council Chambers at 100 North State Street, Lindon, Utah.
Conducting: Larry A. Ellertson, Mayor
Pledge of Allegiance: Chris Guinn, Troop 880
Invocation: Larry Ellertson
PRESENT
Larry A. Ellertson, Mayor
Jeff Acerson, Councilmember
Lindsey Bayless, Councilmember
James A. Dain, Councilmember
Jerald I. Hatch, Councilmember
Ott H. Dameron, City Administrator
Venla Gubler, Administrative Clerk
ABSENT
H. Toby Bath, Councilmember
Kevin Smith, Planning Director
The Meeting began at 7:10 P.M.
MINUTES
The Minutes of November 13, 2001 will be available at the next meeting.
OPEN SESSION - Citizens comments
Barbara Walker, of 35 South 400 East, asked if a decision had been made about putting 300 East through from 70 South to Center Street. Mayor Ellertson informed her that the Council had discussed this item with the neighborhood last week. No decisions had been made other than to work with the property owners in the area. Ms. Walker commented that if a decision cannot be reached now, that the option should not be abandoned. She observed that people do not live forever, and if a house is planted there now, no road can go through there ever. She suggested that the Council wait until later to put the road in. Mayor Ellertson noted that the preponderance of the people there were not in favor. Mr. Dameron commented that both lots #7 and #8 had been left off the Dirker Farms Subdivision plat until a decision was made.
Ms. Walker observed that the City had gone to much expense to build a replica of a pioneer home in the Pioneer Park on 150 South 500 East. However, in the interests of historical integrity, she would like to point out some flaws. This was a home built when there were meager means. She suggested that the walls were too high and the cabin should be shorter. She contended that the higher walls would have taken more expense to build and therefore would not have been done. She felt they would not have had roof shingles, just boards. There would have been no brick in the fireplace and no hearth. There would also have been no side seats built into the home. Electricity was brought to Lindon on December 12, 1900. When this home was built there would have been no lighting, and when the lighting was installed later there would only have been one bulb. There would have been no light above the door, and they would not have had such a beautiful door, just flat boards and no window. She felt that the cabin itself would not have had windows at first either. She suggested the City fix the things they could to make it more authentic, like taking out the fireplace, sand the beam so it looks more rough hewn, take the light off the door and take out the lights inside, put slats on the roof, and sell the front door.
Councilmember Dain disagreed with Ms. Walker’s assessment on the roof shingles. He told her that he had pulled square nails out of the shingles like this before and he believed that the shingles were there when the home was built. Ms. Walker brought up the garden. She said that she would like to see the things that they grew, like hollyhocks, vines and roses. She observed that this is a pioneer cabin. It does not have historical integrity. She admitted that some of these things might have come a little later when there was more prosperity, but not in this size of home. She would like to see the City invest in making the house historically correct.
When asked what the Historical Preservation Committee might say to these changes, Councilmember Bayless replied that if these changes were made, the City might lose the members of the Historical Committee. She pointed out that the planning and building of this cabin had been a long, stressful process. She invited Ms. Walker to become a member of the Historical Committee, but Ms. Walker declined for lack of time. Mayor Ellertson suggested that Ms. Walker attend the next meeting of the Committee in January to make these suggestions to them herself. Ms. Walker agreed.
MAYOR’S COMMENTS AND REPORT
Mayor Ellertson commented that he had nothing new to report. He asked if there were any questions for him. There were none.
CONSENT AGENDA - No Items
CURRENT BUSINESS
1. Continued Public Hearing - Reimbursement Ordinance - Ostler Industrial Park - Ordinance #2001-14. The City Council will hear public comment and possibly act to approve this ordinance which will require adjacent lands to the Ostler Industrial Park to reimburse the developer of this subdivision for the pro-rata share of public improvement development costs. This item was continued from the October 2, October 16, and November 13, 2001 meetings.
Mr. Dameron reported that the interested parties were not prepared to make their presentation yet. He recommended that the Council not continue this item, but table it and re-advertise it when the preparations and negotiations were completed.
COUNCILMEMBER BAYLESS MOVED TO TABLE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE OSTLER INDUSTRIAL PARK REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE INDEFINITELY TO ALLOW THE PARTIES TIME TO COMPLETE THEIR NEGOTIATIONS, THEN READVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCILMEMBER DAIN SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
2. Public Hearing - Adoption of Comprehensive, Updated Lindon City Map. This is a request by city staff for review and adoption of the newly updated, comprehensive Lindon City Zoning Map. This map includes changes made as a result of various recent public hearings and the changes made to implement the General Plan goals.
COUNCILMEMBER HATCH MOVED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE, UPDATED LINDON CITY ZONING MAP. COUNCILMEMBER ACERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Dameron informed the Council that this map is the result of the hearings on the general plan and the zoning hearings held earlier this year. He noted that the Mountain States Steel area on Geneva Road had been designated commercial on the General Plan, but was not rezoned during the zoning hearing to commercial, but kept in Light Industrial.
Councilmember Hatch pointed out a possible error in a parcel on State Street that should be showing as all commercial. The Council discussed briefly where the zoning was left as a line parallel to State Street and where it was moved to property lines. Mayor Ellertson suggested that staff check and see what was decided there before accepting this map. Councilmember Dain agreed that the hearing could be continued to the next meeting to allow this to be checked. Councilmember Bayless also agreed. Councilmember Acerson remembered a portion of the discussion where it was decided to leave the line parallel to State Street until applications for development came in before making any changes.
Councilmember Dain asked if the Heavy Industrial zone conformed to the Schaeffer property lines as discussed. Mayor Ellertson asked Mr. Dameron that this be checked also. Mr. Dameron pointed out the RMU-E and RMU-W zones. Mayor Ellertson questioned a parcel. Mr. Dameron identified it as the proposed Dry Canyon Park.
Mr. Boyd Jacobson requested a copy to inspect. Mr. Dameron informed him that there had been no changes in the Light Industrial zone near his parcel. Councilmember Dain confirmed with Mr. Jacobson that he was not concerned about the zoning that would affect his ownership.
Councilmember Dain asked if there was any other comment. There was none. Mayor Ellertson questioned asked a question regarding the south end of State Street. Councilmember Dain indicated that this map includes the corrections and comments made during the earlier public hearing on State Street. Councilmember Bayless commented that she thought the triangle had been squared up by Main and Center Streets. Mr. Dameron replied that it had been decided to leave it as is until later development may indicate a change.
COUNCILMEMBER DAIN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCILMEMBER BAYLESS SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
COUNCILMEMBER DAIN MOVED TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERING THE ADOPTION OF A COMPREHENSIVE, UPDATED LINDON CITY ZONING MAP UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. COUNCILMEMBER BAYLESS SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
3. Design Review - Potential Charter School Site. This is a request by Leonard Lee of L.A. Lee Enterprises for a design review of a potential Charter School on his property at 150 East Center Street.
Mayor Ellertson commented that the next item is a design review of a potential charter school site. Mr. Dameron noted that the draft minutes of Planning Commission discussion on this design review had been included in the information packets for the Council’s information. He described the project area. He observed that a public street will be built into the school site at approximately 100 East 130 South. He displayed an overhead of a proposed layout of the school and showed the proposed private lane for emergency use only that would enter the site from the Datapad business.
The use of the proposed private lane was discussed. Mr. Lee indicated that he intended to leave the lane open for access and use of his building that is northwest of the proposed school. Mayor Ellertson questioned Mr. Lee’s intention to have no restrictions on the use of the lane. Mr. Lee indicated that he had no problems in the past with people using the lane for public access. Mr. Dameron observed that the Fire Marshal had required two exits from the school site. He noted that Mr. Lee also intends to have one residential lot at part of the subdivision.
Mayor Ellertson commented that since the traffic engineer has recommended access from the east, the fire marshal is requiring dual access routes, and the congestion point is the Center Street access from the school road, what is the chance of getting access to 200 East instead of to Center Street. Mr. Lee replied that he had originally had access to 200 East near the Brewer home from his commercial property. However, when the City had denied access to 200 East from his business, he had traded the property to the Hardy’s. There was a discussion of possible access to Main Street through the Rogers’ parcel, but it was noted that the alignment of Main Street had been changed now and access would be difficult from there also.
Councilmember Bayless commented that the Council may like to hear particulars about the school. Mr. Lee commented that Mr. Eric Smith was present to answer questions. Mr. Smith observed that he had met with the Council about five months ago when he requested a letter of support from the Council. He commented that the Timpanogos Academy had been granted a State Charter and now needed help with building a school. He talked briefly about the kinds of charter schools and noted that the Charter Canyon School for Troubled Teens was not like this one. Timpanogos Academy would be a K-6 standard public school that requires the parents of students to be involved in their education. It offers parents choices in education. He noted that options like vouchers have been considered in the State Legislature, and charter schools are a nice balance. He said that this is a public school, funded by state dollars, that focuses on the curriculum, not the type of student. It will provide an aggressive education. There will be no bussing–parents will drop off and pick up their children. The student body is from the Alpine School District with a concentration of Pleasant Grove and American Fork residents represented. Councilmember Hatch asked if the school was functioning yet. Mr. Smith replied no and indicated that the first school year will commence in September 2002.
Councilmember Acerson asked about their budget. Mr. Smith commented that the Board of Trustees reports directly to the State Office of Education because they are chartered directly by the State. He noted that the Charter School had no ability to bond for the building and with so many start up costs, that budget is necessarily limited.
Councilmember Dain asked if there is a limit on the number of students. Mr. Smith replied that their charter allows two classes per grade with 25 students per class. Councilmember Dain observed that the charter school seems popular and many parents want to get their children enrolled. He wondered if the school building will be added on to later to allow more student enrollment. Mr. Smith replied that the school had no plans to expand their enrollment. Students are added to the enrollment lists by lottery. Mrs. Michelle Smith commented that research has determined that school performance is best when a school is kept to a size of 300-400 students. They have no plans to grow beyond those bounds. Mr. Smith observed that charter schools can cap the size of their classes and are not like a public school which must take everyone within their boundaries.
Mayor Ellertson commented that with an enrollment of 300 to 326 students, there would be some traffic. He referred to the traffic study and the Challenger School comparison of 122 vehicles dropping off children. He asked if the school will do more than encourage car pooling and may make it a requirement. He noted that there may be more than 122 vehicles. Mr. Smith replied that many parents are encouraged economically to car pool. He noted that the Challenger School is similar to this school, so the traffic engineer based the study on them. The Challenger School draws on the same area and is in a similar location.
Councilmember Dain wondered if there was a possibility of bussing if there is a cluster of children in an area. Mr. Smith answered that bussing is optional. The school does not participate in funding for bussing from the State and/or Federal Government. He noted that it is unlikely but possible.
Mr. Lee commented that after the Planning Commission meeting last week, they had talked with Horrocks Engineering about the traffic flow and how the Commissioners had talked about right turns. The Engineers had agreed that the right turn pattern is more efficient and will be issuing a new letter. The letter will recommend that the school offset the times of school starting with Lindon Elementary, and a “right turn in and right turn out” pattern of traffic flow. Mr. Smith noted that charter schools are successful in telling parents to do that. Mayor Ellertson wondered if the drive into the school would extend school zone distance. He asked if there were crossing guards for Lindon Elementary close to the turn into the street. The crossings were identified and it was noted that the school zone would need an extension to the east.
Ms. Smith commented that the school is requiring a drop off policy. She observed that parents are concerned about the safety of their children. There will be an attended drop off and an attended pick-up by a teacher. Mayor Ellertson asked her to show the Council how that will work. She explained that the cars will come from the west on Center Street, turn up the street and into the entrance of the school where they will be met by a teacher. The teacher will escort the children into the classroom. The parents will exit and turn right from the school back onto Center Street and exit the area to the east. Councilmember Bayless commented that she’d had children in the Challenger School and that parents are very willing to accommodate the school. Mr. Lee commented that there is a light on 200 South for parents to exit back to State Street. Mrs. Smith commented that when parents pick up their children, they mount names on the car so that children are escorted in and out of the school. Mayor Ellertson asked if there were any other questions.
Councilmember Dain expressed concern that Parcel B would now have access from a public road. He noted that when Mr. Lee had attempted to rezone the Foster house, the Council had not been in favor of putting commercial traffic onto Center Street. Mr. Lee agreed and replied that the residential lot on Center Street gives the residential buffer that was wanted and puts the school in back with the commercial property. Councilmember Dain asked if the traffic study takes into account commercial uses that might be done on Parcels B and C. Mr. Lee indicated his willingness to enter into a development agreement with the City concerning the uses that may locate on these parcels.
Councilmember Dain noted that Parcel B needs frontage on the cul-de-sac to get approved for a building permit. Mr. Lee replied that he would dedicate the private lane for the required frontage. Mayor Ellertson inquired the length of the private lane. Mr. Lee replied 600 feet. Mayor Ellertson suggested that the cul-de-sac should be extended so that the remaining lot has frontage on the culdesac and not the private lane. Mr. Lee suggested that the lane may help the school with the turnaround. Councilmember Dain felt it should just be a pull out. He felt there should be no road opened to State Street. Mr. Lee replied that the lane was not wide enough. It is just an easement with access recorded. Councilmember Hatch expressed concern about truck traffic using it to go from Center Street to the Southtowne Mall. Mr. Lee noted that the lane was open now and he personally takes a dump truck through there for his construction company. He noted that Fed Ex and other trucks have had ample opportunity to use the lane, but have not. Mayor Ellertson verified with Mr. Lee that there is no truck traffic use on the lane from the Mall. Mr. Lee verified this, then also commented that the lane is not yet paved.
Mayor Ellertson noted that the uses of Parcels B and C may have impact on the traffic of both schools. Councilmember Dain suggested that the development agreement would limit the uses and attempt to match the school. Mr. Lee agreed that the development agreement would be the best solution. Mayor Ellertson commented that the schools should be compatible with the uses of those parcels. Mr. Smith commented that the Planning Commission had made the suggestion that the standard land use table be reviewed for appropriate uses. Mr. Lee indicated that he had acquired the list and had highlighted those he thought would be compatible. Mr. Dameron observed that the agreement would be a recorded document.
Mr. Lee mentioned that the Planning Commission had expressed concern that the playground was not a sufficient width. It has now been widened from 65 feet to 80 feet. This has reduced the size of Parcel B to about an acre. Parcel C also becomes an acre. The road contains .77 acres and the residential lot is .50 acres. He commented that he has visited with the neighbors and their biggest concern is with traffic. He felt that the engineer’s suggestions to offset the starting times would help alleviate the traffic. Mayor Ellertson observed that the traffic concern is for pedestrians. Mr. Lee agreed. He suggested that this solution would not increase the congestion, only extend the time of congestion. He noted that the school has been well received by the neighborhood.
Mayor Ellertson commented that this process is for a design review to determine what the concerns are and recommend corrections to alleviate them. Mr. Dameron commented that Mr. Lee needed to meet with the DRC to iron out the proposed development agreement. It will be brought to the Council for approval. The Planning Commission can deal with the site plan issues and then the City Council will consider final approval.
Mayor Ellertson suggested that the Council review the minutes of both meetings. He noted that traffic is one of the issues and if parents are aware of the situation and problems occur, the Council may need to revisit this proposal to see if changes are needed. Mr. Lee observed that there are other issues that may need to be decided by the school. He asked the Council for an opinion of this proposal.
Councilmember Dain expressed the opinion that this is as good a location as any. His concern is traffic. He suggested that the City get an idea of what is needed and then plan for more.
Councilmember Hatch commented that with no busses, parents will be bringing their children to school and there will be more traffic. Councilmember Dain commented that coordination with Lindon Elementary would be recommended. Ms. Smith replied that the school had already been called. She noted that the parents were also aware of the time stagger with the existing school. Councilmember Hatch commented that the distance of the school zone would have to be extended to include this school. Mr. Dameron replied that staff would be doing that.
Mayor Ellertson asked if the school would hold any events that would need additional parking. Mr. Smith replied that this would happen rarely. Mr. Lee observed that parents could park at the mall and use the lane to access the school for events. Mayor Ellertson asked if the parking would conflict with business use. Mr. Lee replied that his business closes at 5:00 p.m. and the parking lot would be free for the evening. Mayor Ellertson asked if Mr. Lee had any concerns with security. Mr. Lee had none.
Councilmember Bayless suggested that the vehicle access to the lane be restricted by a crash barricade and a walk through be provided. She said that the invitations to events could note that parent’s parking is available at the mall. Mr. Lee wondered if the Council wanted to limit parents shopping at the mall after they drop off their children to school. Councilmember Bayless felt that there should be a limited egress of commercial traffic through the school area. Mr. Smith observed that the entrance to the lane is behind the mall and not easily accessible. Mr. Dameron replied that the City does not encourage using a parking lot as a street. Councilmember Bayless agreed and asked how many of the parents will use the lane as a way out to State Street. Councilmember Acerson commented that a similar situation exists at the Orem City offices where people cut through the parking lot. Councilmember Dain commented that it may create more traffic. Ms. Smith observed that the charter school would favor a crash gate.
Mr. Lee mentioned that there may also be a storm drain issue with the property. Mr. Dameron replied that this is a technical issue that would be resolved in DRC. Mr. Lee indicated that he felt this was now resolved.
Mayor Ellertson asked if there was any other comment. Mr. Boyd Jacobson wondered why the Council would consider putting more traffic in the vicinity of the Lindon Elementary. He pointed out that previously there had been planned access to 200 East through lots that had been set aside. Now that access has been closed and all the traffic will go onto Center Street. Councilmember Dain replied that the City preferred that the businesses at the mall not access 200 East. At the time, they were concerned about vehicles using the parking lot to access 200 East. They have been trying to protect 200 East and keep from turning the parking lot into a road. That is why they are considering a crash gate to stop traffic on this lane.
Mr. Jacobson suggested that the cul-de-sac should not be a public road. He felt it should be a private street with access only to the school. Mayor Ellertson commented that the private lane would only provide fire access. Councilmember Dain replied that the City’s experience with private roads is that they are not plowed or maintained properly. This road also contains public easements for water, sewer and storm drains which also does not work well with a private street. Mr. Jacobson expressed more concerns about private and public access. Councilmember Dain commented that the cul-de-sac will be a public street. It is required to turn around a fire engine. Mr. Lee commented that the school would prefer a private lane, however, they had chosen to dedicate a public street because it is a city requirement.
Mr. Jacobson objected to opening this commercial property to access from Center Street. He commented that he had no problem with the school itself, just with the possibility of their neighbors being commercial businesses that would add to the traffic situation on Center Street. Councilmember Bayless replied that this reason is why Mr. Lee and the City will negotiate a development agreement that will limit the uses on those parcel to those that don’t generate heavy traffic.
Mayor Ellertson asked if there was other comment. There was none. Mr. Lee thanked the Council for their opinions and commented that he would schedule an appointment with DRC to resolve these issues.
4. Design Review - Trophy Homes. This is a request by Wayne Corbridge of Trophy Homes for a design review of a residential project proposed on property at approximately 1700 West 500 North. This residential project is referred to as a Village Residential Development and proposes higher density housing with an open space component.
Mayor Ellertson commented that this item is another design review. He observed that the Councilmembers will remember when Mr. Corbridge came to a Council meeting and talked about the concept. He noted that the Planning Commission minutes also were included in the information packets for their review.
Mr. Dameron suggested that he orient the audience with the site. He explained that this proposal is on the west side of town, between Geneva Road and the freeway. The future 700 North will connect to the freeway interchange and will run just north of this project. 500 North and other future roads will tie into the grid of this area. This project area was crosshatched on the map shown to the Council and audience. Mayor Ellertson asked for verification of the location of 2000 West. Mr. Dameron pointed it out and indicated the location of the nearby businesses of Goodfellow and DOTS. He displayed the last rendition of this proposal that was presented at the concept review. He explained that the project is a multi- family, open space idea. Mayor Ellertson observed that this project would start the development of the west side. He noted that 1700 West is on the master plan but asked Mr. Corbridge to show from where access would come. Mr. Corbridge replied that the development company would finish 500 North from the east, 2000 West is an existing road, but the main access will be built from 700 North.
Councilmember Bayless asked about the present ownership of the land in and surrounding the project. Mr. Corbridge explained that the Gillmans, Andersons and others were the owners. Councilmember Bayless observed that Trophy Homes had no control of where the roads will go since they don’t own the land the roads will cross. Mr. Corbridge explained that there were no easements as yet, but he felt confident that the families would cooperate.
Mr. Corbridge offered an update on the project since the concept review. The first version presented had been 12 units to the acre. The Planning Commission had been uncomfortable with 12 units per acre and had indicated that they would consider nine units per acre. He had looked at the economics and revamped the project to the requested nine units per acre, however, he noted, this is now a risky project. He tried to keep it similar in appearance by keeping the open space on the corners the same. He showed the Council pictures from around Lindon that he felt were representative of what these corners would look like. Councilmember Dain asked him to pass the pictures around in the audience.
Mr. Corbridge promoted the rural feel of the project. He observed that the clubhouses will look like barns similar to those at Diamond Lil’s or Linden Nursery. Mayor Ellertson asked if there was any natural drainage in the open space area. Mr. Corbridge replied that there was not, but there is a canal on 1700 West that the development will maintain and feed into the pond. He felt this could also be used for the secondary pressurized irrigation. Mayor Ellertson asked if the canal would service this development only with secondary water. Mr. Corbridge indicated that the pond was not sized, but he had talked with the water engineer. The intent is to use the pond for storage and a water feature. He noted that the other changes are the apartments and three story condos. He has taken out the apartments and replaced them with two story town homes and reduced the three-story condos to only one area. The three story condos will look like large custom homes. Passers-by on the freeway will only see four of the three-story buildings.
Mayor Ellertson commented on the feel of the project in Orem at 800 North 900 West. Mr. Corbridge told him that this project is closer to the feel of the project in West Jordan which is all owner occupied housing. He noted that more parking had been added to the project for guests. To accomplish all this, he had taken out units. What was 588 units, is now 440 units–a reduction of 25%. He will need to build the same infrastructure, but will have less revenue.
Mr. Corbridge commented that the master plan states that some residential development in this area is desirable. He informed the Council that the Planning Commission does think there should be residential in this area. Their issue is density. The area needs enough residential to make “critical mass.” He claimed that the City needs a retail corridor to add tax revenue. He suggested that if this project is allowed, it will support the retail sector, and they will build sooner and be more viable.
Mr. Corbridge raised the issue of how much residential should be there and what it should look like. He observed that the surrounding land uses of the location are industrial. There is a high water table. He asked what kind of residential is realistically feasible. Lindon residents like larger open spaces and larger homes, however, he did not feel that this is an area to get custom homes. This area will not invite a project like Ivory homes. For any residential to be successful, it must be moderately priced. Otherwise, the buyers will choose to live farther from Geneva and the freeway. If the City promotes the single family option, a project of 440 homes at four to an acre would consume the available area and create “urban sprawl.” This is the antithesis of Envision Utah and planned communities. Lindon should use resources wisely. “Urban Sprawl” would use up land that is productive for other uses. It would all need irrigation for yards. According to Mr. Corbridge, it would not be “efficient or what we want to accomplish.”
Mr. Corbridge informed the Council that single family housing does not give the diversity of pricing that is available in his proposal. Maintenance may be an issue. There is the possibility in single family housing for maintenance problems with yards. This project’s landscaping would be installed by the developer and maintained by a professional homeowners association. Other pluses of this project are the lifestyle amenities. Homes are clustered and open space created. There will be swimming pools and club houses, trails to tie the community together and to the outside, tot lots and basketball courts. It will create a high quality of life for 440 families. It also satisfies the affordable housing statute and provides a variety of housing.
Density is what makes it economically feasible. It promotes water conservation and smart growth. It is pedestrian oriented. The trails promote a healthy lifestyle and provide a connection to the retail sector. If this is built, it will implement smart growth, be progressive and create something special. This is the preferred alternative to urban sprawl and industrial growth. This is the gateway into our community. How do we see it?
The reason this area hasn’t developed in the past is because of the lack of infrastructure. Over a mile of water and sewer lines will be installed. He estimated that more than $1.25 million will be invested in infrastructure. This kind of investment will not come from a small commercial or retail developer. Adding a residential component allows us to “kick start” this area. He expressed the opinion that without this project, other development will not come soon. He noted that Pleasant Grove will be doing everything they can to bring in development. He encouraged the Council to be proactive and aggressive.
He advocated this project as a great place to live. It will not be low income or government subsidized housing. He admitted that the density of nine units per acre is the issue most of the Commissioners and Councilmembers seem concerned with. He agreed that if the greater area is built into high density housing the total rooftop number of 1,600 seems overwhelming. There are 440 homes in this project. This will allow development of the other surrounding areas incrementally. This will give the retail component a start with critical mass number and will give the City the opportunity to examine the options before they decide the future of the other ground.
He referred to the concern about the feel of the density at Chambery in Orem. The Countrywood project next to the Chambery is 18 units per acre. Chambery is 15 per acre. This one is nine and has more open space. He mentioned that if the Council had questions about high crime, he had obtained statistics on high density. He had researched in Orem’s most applicable areas. The Shadowridge and Stonebrook condos border a residential area in North Orem. In the condo area, the average is 1.05 reports per household. In the single family residential area, the average is 1.3 reports per household. He reported that there is a 24% higher crime rate and more police reports from the single family homes than the condos. He noted that the types of crimes are teenager related.
Councilmember Acerson observed that the difference between 1.05 and 1.3 is not very large. He noted that he would like to see the report categorized by type of crime. The Council discussed the types of crimes and police reports in the condo area and the single family area. Mayor Ellertson observed that this meeting is for presenting information and no decisions would be made. Mr. Dameron commented that Mr. McCutchan, Mr. Corbridge’s planner, has included a proposed ordinance to change the zone and a public hearing will be needed to consider it. Mayor Ellertson noted that this is the “front end” and much more air time is needed. Mr. Corbridge agreed, however, he informed the Council that the reality for him is that tonight is decision time. He needs to decide whether or not to close on the property purchase on December 7. He is not willing to buy the land and spend money and then be denied. He told the Council that he needs an idea if the City will support the project at least conceptually. He told the Council, “If you say ‘no’ to multifamily down there, I need to know.”
Councilmember Acerson replied that he had a lot of questions. He realized that Mr. Corbridge is asking for direction, however, he is not comfortable giving direction without some answers to his questions. He wants to know about plans for churches and schools. He is concerned about the infrastructure installation on 700 North. For Mr. Corbridge’s residents to help push commercial development, the City will have to spend a lot of money to put in 700 North. Mr. Corbridge replied that Trophy Homes will put in the first part of 700 North and the residents will help to “kick start” development of the area.
Councilmember Acerson wondered if the City is better served by development of commercial and industrial in the area. Mr. Dameron pointed out that these businesses need rooftops to serve. Councilmember Bayless observed that there is a lot of land there to develop with rooftops. Mr. Corbridge mentioned a talk with Jason Burningham of Lewis, Young, Robertson & Burningham. Mr. Burningham had told him that in a vacuum residential makes an impact on the city. Add in commercial and a project carries itself and is economically feasible.
Councilmember Dain asked if this parcel were to be developed into ½ acre building lots, how much would the lots have to sell for and would they be marketable. He asked the Council to consider that if ½ acre lots are not feasible, then there will never be a residential component there. Councilmember Bayless objected to the finality of “never.” She pointed out Pheasant Brook as a positive image of what can work. Councilmember Dain asked the Council to consider the price of the land and the cost of the infrastructure installation. He reasoned that if the lots were priced at $150,000 per lot, they would not sell. He felt that $100,000 was marginal, but $50,000 may be economically attractive to potential buyers. Mr. Corbridge said that the costs of land and water alone would put the price at $50,000 per lot. He pointed out that these lots would have to contend with ground water, Geneva, and lack of a view.
Councilmember Dain observed that the master plan committee could see the benefits of a residential component west of Geneva, but could not agree on what it would look like and gave up. He asked if the City needs to face the fact that development into ½ acre lots is not feasible. Mr. Corbridge commented that the lots need to be affordable.
Councilmember Bayless asked Mr. Corbridge’s plans to provide the community with services like churches and schools. Mr. Corbridge replied that the Church won’t buy land without rooftops. He noted that there is other land in the area available for a church. He addressed the school issue. He referred to his buyer profile and asserted that there would not be many children. He said that the Chambery development had only 17% of their residents who had children and most of those are young. He predicted that only 88 homes out of the 440 total homes would have children, most of which would be toddlers. He claimed that only 44 families would live there long enough to go to a public school. He suggested that this development could tie into Pleasant Grove’s developments for schools.
Mr. Dean Blackhurst observed that he did not own property involved in this development, but did elsewhere in the commercial area there. He commented that this project would open up the area. He agreed that it is a difficult decision for the Council, but if retail and commercial is wanted in the area the decision needs to be made. If there is going to be retail and commercial, there needs to be rooftops for the development of that retail and commercial. Otherwise, there will be no one to shop. He pointed out that Pleasant Grove is moving ahead. He claimed that Lindon will lose out if Pleasant Grove is first. He addressed the ½ acre residential lot suggestion. He told the Council to visit the area. He asserted that development is not going to get the prices needed because of the proximity of the freeway, the landfill, and heavy industrial development. He felt that potential homeowners will not pay big prices for building lots in this area, possibly in 20 years, but not now. He agreed that this is a hard decision. It is not traditional Lindon. He asked the Council to think forward to the future. He pointed out that Mr. Corbridge will be installing a portion of 700 North and he hoped that the Council can look at the full picture. He asked if they were satisfied with industrial, because it will not remain farmland. Farming is no longer viable there.
Mrs. Barbara Walker asked if the project is not low income, then why would others buy there? She asked why single family homes could not be there. She suggested that instead of the City maintaining the area for green area and the residents paying the bill that it be divided into single family lots. She claimed that it is impossible for children to play in the open space without supervision anyway.
Mr. Mike Travis told the Council that he had moved to Lindon from a development similar to this in Provo. They had liked living there. They had small fenced yards and pathways. Their children could play safely because the neighbors were in close proximity. They still get together on biweekly basis with their friends. He claimed that you get to know your neighbors and watch out for each other. He informed the Council that he had searched for a lot and a home for two years before coming to Lindon. If the development had been here, they might have been drawn here faster. The lots in the area around him are selling for $100,000+. This kind of project is more affordable for a young family. Home ownership is important. This allows those with a lower income to get into a nicer area.
Ms. Walker expressed concern about what will happen in 10-15 years. She pointed out that although now all the units will be owner occupied, in the future they will more likely be rented. That changes the complex. She claimed that people want their children in their own yard in close contact. They want their own green space. She claimed that “urban sprawl” is the safest way to raise children. Lindon’s motto is a “Little Bit of Country.” “How much country can you see with 800 cars a day coming and going and parked?” she asked. She claimed it would look more like a mall, not like country. She expressed concern that if this development is allowed then Lindon will have set precedence and will have to approve other projects. “What do we want to become?” she asked. Mr. Corbridge commented that the town homes do have backyards. This is specifically for toddlers. There are not many children otherwise in his projects. The sizes of the yards were discussed. Mr. Corbridge pointed out that there are trails and swimming pools for older children. He also noted that the City did not have to accept dedication of the open space for a city park. He was willing to keep it for the homeowners association.
Dave Mitton of 45 Teton Drive, commented that he supported Mr. Corbridge. He informed the Council that he is a competitor of Mr. Corbridge’s in the same business. He promoted Mr. Corbridge’s projects as high quality and maintained well. He claimed that Mr. Corbridge cares about the look and feel of a project and what happens 20 years from now. He commented that he resents the stigma of crime placed on the residents of these projects. He observed that these people have good jobs, are college graduates with possibly one child. They are not criminals. This type of housing fills a need. They don’t want to rent; they want to buy. They buy gas, car washes, groceries and diapers. If a tax base in Lindon is wanted, increasing the population in this type of project will provide it for them. He suggested that the Council drive I-15 to see the quality of high density that has been done in other towns. “Why not Lindon?” he asked.
Jeff Southard also spoke in support of this project. He referred to a study the City had commissioned with Pleasant Grove and American Fork to foresee what may develop in this area. He referred to his days on the Lindon Planning Commission. He felt it should be considered. He claimed that this is not an area that will allow typical homes. He also claimed that there is no question about what comes first, houses first, and then commercial and retail. He noted that Pleasant Grove is making that move. He claimed that Lindon will miss out on this opportunity and it may turn into industrial rather than commercial.
Ken Holmstead of 135 North 200 East admitted that as a commercial realtor he would love to sell the land on 700 North. He advised the Council that it is not going to sell without people there. He encouraged the Council to “Give them customers.” He informed the Council that the average price of a home in Lindon is $265,000. He said that our children cannot afford to buy the homes we live in. He said that last year only two houses were available in Lindon less than $150,000. Our children would have to make $32,000+ to qualify for a loan to buy a home of that size. He said that we were effectively telling our children that, “You can’t live in your town.” We are pushing them out of Lindon.
Ms. Shirley Matthews opened her statements by telling the Council that “Open space is not a substitute for private space.” Most people yearn to have their own yard. She advocated taking the open space and amenities and making them part of private yards. She claimed that she likes parks but to not sacrifice yards. The amenities are great, but what she enjoys is going home and making her own garden. Her daughter’s friend lives in one of these projects and their children get teased. She had a letter to submit from this friend that said she could not wait to get out of this housing. She suggested that the developer share the land with the people that want to buy it. She claimed that restrictive covenants make houses expensive in Lindon. She agreed that nine units per acre are better than 12, but is still not much area for a family. She said that recently “urban sprawl” has become a dirty word. She said that it refers to all of us that have space. She said that if we are not careful, it is the rich who will have the land and rest of us will be serfs.
Fran Patten claimed that she had lived here for 20 years. She wondered where the “Little Bit of Country” was disappearing. She pointed out that 400 East is a “zoo.” There is no sidewalk. She claimed that there were many willing to pay the price to live here and to not have it crowded.
Curt Stembridge claimed no vested interest in this project. He has seen similar communities. He wondered also what this project would be in 30 years. He noted that the developers try to make them upscale. There are still those that don’t do the maintenance on the inside, like there are those that don’t maintain their single family homes. He commented that he was amazed to see people that want to live by the freeway with light industrial on all sides. He applauds Pleasant Grove for wanting to move faster, but Lindon does not have to keep up. He claimed that this is a well-known sales technique. Prudence dictates that Lindon move slower. He claimed that he is neither for nor against this particular project. There are places for this type of thing, just not in Lindon. He advises prudence and careful consideration.
Ron Anderson of 383 North Anderson Lane, noted that he and his family will be the only ones affected directly by this because they are the only ones that live close by. He admitted that his first reaction was no, however, 700 North has been talked about for years. They zoned the area industrial and turned away oil and junk dealers, but the road has never come. He operates a dairy farm and wonders about 400 people moving in next door. He predicted that soon there would be no farms in this area. They now have a galvanizing plant and a group home as their neighbors. This would bring more children, but he felt that single family homes would bring more teenagers, rather than little children. He advocated clubhouses, if that’s what the residents want. It may be better than guns and dogs amongst their animals.
Mrs. Matthews commented that this is an attempt to zone out teenagers. Mr. Anderson expressed support for the project to help put in 700 North. He claimed that it would be either the City paying the millions necessary, or the developer paying the millions necessary. He noted that Mr. Blackhurst had been trying to sell for five years. The infrastructure is needed. He is willing to put up with the inconvenience of neighbors for this.
Mr. Southard objected that he had seen homes on ½ acre lots in significantly worse repair than one of these projects. He claimed that it is a myth to say things become rundown. Condo and town home owners have pride of ownership too. He also addressed the crime issue. He claimed that the large homes on the east side are targeted by criminals and juveniles, so there is more crime there. He felt that the statistics would prove that there is more crime in higher income areas than in lower income areas.
Councilmember Acerson stated that he would like to see what the statistics say. Mr. Southard felt that street lights would do more to curb crime. Mr. Dameron described the process that would allow Mr. Southard to apply for a street light in his neighborhood.
Mr. Travis addressed Mrs. Matthews comment about zoning out teenagers. He suggested that right now Lindon is zoning out young married professionals. Mrs. Walker pointed out the Salisbury subdivision started out at $117,000. The lots sold fast. She claimed that this is what a young family would love to have.
Mr. Travis commented that some families prefer to have a management company take care of their yards. This assured that the yards are in pristine condition for years. Homeowners are assured that their green spaces reflect quality. It draws income to the area to have things maintained. He claimed that these young homeowners could then strike out into mainstream Lindon. He observed that most would not want to move any where else. They just don’t make enough to afford single family homes yet. He advised the Council to keep these families here so they are not seeking housing elsewhere.
Alene Hardman asked how to get developers to sell lots more reasonably? Mr. Holmstead commented that our children don’t have an alternative to living outside of Lindon. Councilmember Acerson observed that accessory apartments in their parent’s homes help young people to save and get a down payment. Mrs. Matthews advocated a subdivision like Salisbury. She claimed that young families still have a feeling of private space. Mr. Southard was surprised that Salisbury would be promoted as an ideal place to live.
Ms. Walker expressed concerns that there should be places for children in Lindon. She pointed out that Lindon is only two miles wide and 7 miles long. She agreed that not all of our children can live here, but they can spend time together in our yards. They have options for affordable housing out of Lindon. Lindon cannot provide housing for everyone.
Mayor Ellertson commented that this is being promoted as a market for young professionals. He asked what the buyer profile mix is predicted at. Mr. Corbridge replied that the buyers are predominately 20-35 years old, 83% have no children, 8% are “empty nesters.” The town homes are planned for empty nesters with the master bedroom on the main floor. He advocated keeping older people in the neighborhood. He observed that the ground floor units are wheelchair accessible.
Mayor Ellertson expressed the opinion that he had moved to Lindon because of the lifestyle. He noted that he understands that others do not live here because they want a different lifestyle. This concept has been talked about for 4-5 years. Commercial development along 700 North will need some rooftops to attract them. This area of Lindon is different from other parts of Lindon. He agreed that this should not be something that becomes part of Lindon everywhere. He raised the question of how to not set precedent for Lindon. Mr. Corbridge observed that the ordinance that has been proposed is a mixed commercial overlay. This will safeguard the rest of Lindon. There won’t be any high density housing east of Geneva Road, only this area. Mr. Corbridge commented that he also felt that it is not appropriate next to our homes. Mayor Ellertson noted that the General Plan had envisioned residential in that area, just not exactly how to do it, so it was decided to do a project by project review. The idea was that high density housing would not be proliferate throughout our community.
Councilmember Bayless commented that she was struggling with the idea that high density housing could be done west of Geneva Road because it is removed from the rest of Lindon. She said that she found this offensive and might break up the city. She stated that she likes the diversity the R2 Overlay ordinance promotes. She observed that she was struggling with the idea that doing it here will not affect the main body of the City. Adding the number of homes contemplated will change the demographics of Lindon. She, like many others, moved here for the lifestyle. She feels that she represents those people. She claimed that she couldn’t close her eyes to the future and what people want in Lindon. She said that this is a nice project, but Lindon is not ready for it.
Mr. Corbridge confirmed that Councilmember Bayless did not see any residential west of Geneva Road. Councilmember Bayless replied it that was a possibility. Mayor Ellertson commented that the consultants have all said that Lindon needs rooftops to develop their commercial along 700 North. He pointed out that geographically Lindon is already a divided city. He does not want to draw a stigma on this–there are good people working and living in all parts of Lindon.
Mr. Corbridge talked about the maintenance of the streets in the project. He pointed out that only the main road would be dedicated to the City and need maintenance. The others are private and will be maintained by the homeowners association. There will be little drain on City resources. Councilmember Bayless commented that she wants to do what the people of Lindon want. Mr. Corbridge agreed and said that he had voted for Councilmember Bayless. He felt that this project is not going to alter our lifestyle and change Lindon. He suggested that we not delude ourselves that another developer will come along and pick up the pieces in a few years. Mr. Frandsen to the west is promoting an industrial development and would love to add this property to his project. He said, “This is the deciding point.” If this project is not done in some form now, the land will turn to industrial development and there will be no opportunity for residential in the area. He suggested that the Council take a gamble. He claimed that it would be a shame that industrial development is the legacy of this Council and a missed opportunity.
Mr. Southard commented that he liked the idea that Mr. Corbridge is a Lindon resident. He said that this developer cares about Lindon and would be shamed to go outside his house if this does not work. He asked Councilmember Bayless if Salisbury is what she envisions for Lindon. Councilmember Bayless admitted that with one huge change, the street scape, that she would like to see more of Salisbury as part of Lindon. Mr. Southard pointed out there are fewer professionals in this neighborhood. Councilmember Bayless agreed but added that she thought the people of Salisbury are wonderful.
Mayor Ellertson agreed that there are good people wherever we go. Councilmember Bayless advocated the lifestyle of mixed peoples living in neighborhoods. Mr. Travis felt that this again is stereotyping condo living. He said that you find a good spectrum of people there also. He suggested that the Council look at the diverse demographics. Councilmember Bayless commented that the discussion was focusing on prejudices and was not accomplishing what it was intended. Mayor Ellertson agreed. Councilmember Acerson observed that if the project goes in and turns out wonderful, everyone’s apprehension will have been for nothing. He asked, “Why let industrial development completely take over Lindon’s back yard.” Councilmember Dain asked if this is it as far as high density development or is this just one development in a larger area. Mr. Corbridge noted that high density is usually used to buffer single family residential from industrial development.
Mayor Ellertson commented that this application is a continuing process and no decisions will be made tonight. He observed that he has a sense of urgency to make 700 North happen as this is a significant roadway from the freeway to State Street. He said that if Lindon expects that area to develop commercially, they will need the road, at least a two-lane road to start. He indicated that he felt that the residential and commercial development of 700 North will not impact our homes, but not having a residential component near 700 North will inhibit the development of this corridor. He commented that part of the dilemma that faces Lindon is that there are no defined plans for developmental action in that area. It is presently farm ground. He suggested that the Council take into account everything they have heard and recognize that there is concern. He agreed that high density living is not his idea of home, but it is not wrong. He commented that it will look nice and have perpetual maintenance. If there is anything bad visually, it will be within the walls of one of the units. He observed that he loves the open look in Lindon and he is not sure this detracts from it. He suggested that there were ways to limit the expansion of high density into other areas of Lindon. He asked if there were any other comments.
Councilmember Dain observed that he believes Lindon needs a residential component west of Geneva. He asserted that economics have determined that there will be no ½ acre lots there. He commented that he likes this concept. He likes the fact that there are no apartments. He likes the open feel. He observed that he is an advocate of ½ acre lots, but if there is going to be a residential component west of Geneva, it will be different from the rest of Lindon. He expressed the opinion that it will be something like this proposal. He noted that he is open to consideration of this concept.
Councilmember Hatch thanked the citizens for their good comments. He observed that he would not be opposed to this proposal if he lived in another city. He agreed that Lindon cannot provide for everyone. He commented that Lindon has spent a lot of years providing a niche for larger lots and open space. He felt that allowing this proposal would possibly drive out the larger animals. He observed that people who live in these types of projects do not need a horse. However, the large lots of Lindon meet a need. Raising horses is a growing industry. He commented that his children don’t live here either, but they hang out here.
Mr. Corbridge commented that he was not sure having some high density area pushes out horses. Councilmember Hatch observed that he had no problem with the area going light industrial. His vision of a housing element in that area was owner-occupied shops.
Councilmember Acerson observed that everyone’s concept of a dream home is different and covers a broad spectrum. He commented that most young families now start out in some kind of more dense housing. He agreed that it is not his ideal, but it meets a need for transitional housing. He observed that he is not opposed to some kind of housing in the west area of the city. He expressed the opinion that he was not sure if this is the project, but commented that this is the type Lindon will probably get in this area.
Councilmember Bayless observed that Councilmember Bath was not present, and the current opinions ran 50/50. Mr. Corbridge commented that he was not willing to risk $2 million on a 50/50 vote. Mayor Ellertson asked if there were any more comments.
Mr. Holmstead commented that he was amazed. He expressed the opinion that it makes no sense not to provide this type of housing in this area. He felt that there is no place in Lindon for our children, because they can’t afford a big home and big lot. He observed that lots are now selling for upwards of $74,000. Homes are in the $300,000 range. He accused the Council of zoning for sexually oriented businesses, but not zoning for our children.
Councilmember Acerson suggested that Mr. Corbridge talk to Councilmember Bath. He agreed that there is a stalemate perceived and commented that it is a gamble “worse than Vegas.”
Mayor Ellertson thanked Mr. Corbridge for his presentation. Mr. Corbridge thanked the Council for listening.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
WATER, GENERAL PLAN, BUILDING INSPECTION, ENGINEERING
Councilmember Dain reported that Ivan Walker is still anxious to resolve issues concerning the expansion of his service station/convenience store on North State Street. He informed the Council that Mr. Walker said the building will straddle the city limits with Pleasant Grove. Mr. Walker’s standpoint is that it is more economical for him to get the utilities from Pleasant Grove because he is already connected there. He indicated that Mr. Walker had been informed that Lindon City was not agreeable to letting Pleasant Grove City have the whole corner of 700 North and State Street. The property ownership in the area was discussed and it was disclosed that Mr. Walker had bought the Fugal property. He was still negotiating with Mr. Sadderup, however, there has been a discussion about a friendly condemnation. The Council discussed the need for 700 North to go through between State Street and Geneva Road and whether to consider helping Mr. Walker acquire the Sadderup property.
SEWER, SOLID WASTE, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES
Councilmember Hatch reported on the last meeting with the landfill district. He also asked about litter pickup around the landfill. Mr. Dameron indicated that the TAG group has been performing that service. Councilmember Hatch asked the billing process. Mr. Dameron replied that when TAG bills Lindon, Lindon bills the District. Councilmember Hatch indicated that the District is at their fiscal year end and the amount budgeted may need to be carried over. There was also a discussion of asking the TAG group to do the pickup on a more regular basis and then bill more often.
Councilmember Hatch reported that the Housing Consortium also met recently. He noted that, per the new census, HUD will be getting more funds. Lindon’s share of the HUD funding will also increase. Mayor Ellertson suggested that Gene Carly be informed that Lindon intends to follow through on the housing proposal for Hollow Park.
TRAILS, PLANNING, ZONING, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, ADMINISTRATION
Councilmember Bayless had no report to submit for tonight.
STREETS, SIDEWALKS, PUBLIC SAFETY AND COURT
Councilmember Bath was excused.
PARKS, RECREATION, EMERGENCY MNGMNT, LINDON FAIR, NEWSLETTER
Councilmember Acerson reported that he had talked to Mark Rogers about free dirt. Mr. Dr. Rogers was interested in knowing what the hauling costs might be. Mr. Rogers had indicated that, financially, this may be not a good time for him, but he was willing to consider it. There was a discussion of obtaining an estimate for him on possibly moving one time or moving twice if temporary storage is needed.
Councilmember Acerson passed on a thank you for cleaning up the street where the water break had accumulated mud and debris. Mr. Dameron noted that the asphalt plants were closed now for winter, therefore the additional height for one of the speed humps will be dealt with in the Spring.
ADMINISTRATOR’S REPORT
Mr. Dameron:
1. Reported that the 2002 Bookmobile contact had been received. There was a discussion of whether Lindon residents are taking advantage of the service. It was decided to write a letter, including a copy of the minutes, asking the Bookmobile director to provide information on patron numbers. There was a comment that the Bookmobile would need to provide this information every year or the contract will not be considered.
2. Reviewed the project tracking list for the Council. The Council requested to review the site plans of Goodfellow if they were approved by the Planning Commission, and the LDS Church on 600 North Street.
3. Noted that the City Offices would be closed for the Thanksgiving Holiday Thursday, November 22 and Friday, November 23, 2001.
4. Reminded the Councilmembers that the Hollow Park Committee meeting will be held on November 29, 2001 at 7:00 p.m.
5. Announced the Lindon City Tree Lighting Ceremony will be held on December 3, at 6:00 p.m.
6. Asked the Council to call Kathy Bird, Accounts Payable Clerk, if they wanted to renew their Costco of Sams Club cards.
7. Reported on the Pheasant brook Park Committee meeting. He noted that only four of the members came to the meeting. The only change they suggested is to extend the walking path around the full perimeter of the park. He commented that the committee members are against allowing horses on that trail.
8. Informed the Council that Scott Williams would like to do some fund raising with local businesses to get improvements for Pheasant Brook Park done faster. He would like a letter of introduction from the City to facilitate this fund raising. Mayor Ellertson asked what the ramifications to the City may be for supporting Mr. Williams. Councilmember Bayless suggested that the letter from the City indicate that the City is in support of the Park. Mr. Williams is representing the citizens of his neighborhood. He would like to add amenities to a city park area quicker than the City can afford. The Council approved the drafting of such a letter.
9. Asked if the Mayor and Council had heard of the Timpanogos Visioning Plan. Mayor Ellertson indicated that he was somewhat aware of this project. Mr. Dameron reported that a representative had contacted him for an appointment.
COUNCILMEMBER DAIN MOVED TO APPROVE THE PAY VOUCHERS. COUNCILMEMBER ACERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
COUNCILMEMBER DAIN MOVED TO ADJOURN AT 11:45 P.M. COUNCILMEMBER ACERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
APPROVED - December 4, 2001
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Ott H. Dameron, City Administrator/Recorder
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Larry A. Ellertson, Mayor |
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