April 14, 2004 Minutes
The Lindon City Planning Commission held
a regularly scheduled meeting on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 7:00
p.m. in the Lindon City Center, Council Chambers, at 100 North State Street,
Lindon, Utah.
Conducting: Dustin Sweeten, Chairman
Invocation: Dustin Sweeten
PRESENT
Dustin Sweeten, Chairman
Julie Bryner, Commissioner
Gary Godfrey, Commissioner
Evan Nixon, Commissioner (arrived at 7:30 p.m.)
Jim Peters, Commissioner
Marilyn Simister, Commissioner
Kevin Smith, Planning Director
Venla Gubler, Administrative Clerk
ABSENT
Ron Anderson, Commissioner
Lorenzo Barcellone, Planning Intern
James McMurray, Planning Intern
The meeting began at 7:03 p.m.
1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chairman Sweeten led the audience, Commission and staff in the Pledge
of Allegiance.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The Minutes of the regular meeting of March 24, 2004 were reviewed.
The following corrections were made:
Page 3, Line 25: Add the words "and presented himself" after
the word "himself."
COMMISSIONER PETERS MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 24, 2004 AS
CORRECTED. COMMISSIONER SIMISTER SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED
IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
3. PUBLIC COMMENT
Mr. Matt Kriser of Athletix Sports Training Centers told the Commissioner
that he was looking at moving his business from Orem and was considering
a location in Lindon. He would like some feedback from the Commission
before spending money on engineering. He explained that the sports center
would be the largest in Utah County. Mr. Smith displayed the proposed
lot in the industrial park near the business, Boswell Olsen. Chairman
Sweeten asked if this is a permitted use. Mr. Smith replied that the use
is conditional and must be approved by the Commission. He explained that
the same procedures and provisions as Flyerz Cheer Gym (in this same industrial
subdivision) would be followed.
Mr. Kriser asked if the Commission had any concerns. Chairman Sweeten,
after reviewing the tentative site plan, pointed out that there are special
requirements for buildings with a zero lot line clearance. Mr. Smith suggested
that Mr. Kriser consult with the Building Department before making final
decisions on the placement of the building. Commissioner Bryner asked
what businesses are neighbors of this lot. Mr. Kriser replied that the
closest is Boswell Olsen across the street and that the other adjacent
lots are empty.
Commissioner Bryner expressed concern that heavy trucks may endanger
children coming to the sports facility. Mr. Kriser replied that he planned
a drop-off zone for parents within the lot. He also pointed out the large
number of parking stalls that are planned. Commissioner Peters asked if
he planned storage. Mr. Kriser replied no, but that there is area that
can be used if the building is sold for an industrial use in the
future. Commissioner Simister asked about the options for the second floor
space. Mr. Kriser replied that the facility will have areas to teach dance,
cheer, tumbling and gymnastics. Commissioner Peters asked if the ordinance
places limits on the number of patrons. Mr. Smith replied no, that the
ordinance addresses employee and patron parking, and noticing of the neighbors.
Mr. Kriser noted that the lot is located on a dead end street that will
have little traffic and few neighbors. He thanked the Commission for their
comments and suggestions.
Chairman Sweeten asked if there were other questions. There were none.
4. NEW BUSINESS (Reports of Commissioners)
Chairman Sweeten noted that there is an amended agenda. An item had
been added to discuss the Mel Olsen application. Mr. Smith commented that
there were no planning interns present tonight. Chairman Sweeten asked
if there were other reports. Commissioner Godfrey asked if there were
concerns with traffic in industrial zones conflicting with businesses
like the previous one discussed. Mr. Smith replied that the streets in
the industrial zone are designed at 66-feet of width. He commented that
there is not much traffic and that the wide roads add capacity. Commissioner
Peters commented that the large building can be converted to future industrial
uses.
5. MADSEN SUBDIVISION - PLAT "B"
- 311 NORTH 400 EAST - PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
Mr. Shawn Madsen was present. Mr. Smith displayed an aerial of the neighborhood
and pointed out the lot. He commented that the nonconforming lots of this
proposed subdivision are similar to many of the lots in this neighborhood.
He also displayed the General Plan to show the extension of 450 North
that is proposed. He noted that the Board of Adjustment granted a variance
for these substandard lots, both in width and size, and pointed out the
Board of Adjustment minutes included in the staff report. Commissioner
Peters commented that, essentially, the applicants are changing the property
line to change ownership of the outbuildings from one lot to the other
lot. Mr. Smith agreed. Commissioner Peters asked about the driveway and
access to the sheds that is being used from 400 North Street. He pointed
out that the driveway allows access from 400 North through to 450 North.
Mr. Madsen replied that the access is needed for safety and convenience.
He explained that delivery trucks for the cabinet shop cannot back
out. Commissioner Godfrey asked Mr. Madsen if his intention is to build
a home on the lot facing 450 North. Mr. Madsen replied that he planned
to build a home for himself on this lot.
Commissioner Peters asked about other variances granted by the Board
of Adjustment in this neighborhood. Mr. Smith pointed out lots that have
received variances for substandard lots. Many of the lots
are nonconforming in both width and size. Commissioner Peters asked if
complaints had been received from the neighbors on activities in this
shop. Mr. Smith replied no. Commissioner Peters expressed concern that
the existence of the lane may make building a house difficult. Mr. Madsen
replied that the lot is 97-feet wide and the lane is 24-feet wide. Commissioner
Simister asked who owns the home facing 400 North. Mr. Madsen replied
that this home belongs to his father, Rulon Madsen.
Mr. Smith commented that the improvements for 400 North would need to
be part of this subdivision approval. Commissioner Peters asked if the
property owners could bond for the improvements. Mr. Smith replied yes.
Mr. Rulon Madsen asked why bonding for the improvements is necessary.
He pointed out that 400 North is unimproved throughout this area. and
noted that He did not understand the logic of putting up money that would
not be used for years. Mr. Smith explained the ordinance that requires
bonding for improvements. There was a discussion on bonding and the reasons
for this requirement.
(Commissioner Nixon arrived at 7:30 p.m.)
Commissioner Peters commented that he had no problem with leaving the
lane as access if there were no complaints. He was assured that this is
a low impact business that has existed for years. Commissioner Nixon asked
how moving the lot line would affect the neighbors. Mr. Madsen replied
that the business is not moving, it will remain in the same location.
The change just gives him control of the business contained within the
building, rather than his father and the rest of the family.
The Commission discussed the size of the lots, how the change in the
lot line compares to the neighbors' lot lines and access through the lot.
There was a discussion about abiding by the Board of Adjustment decision
and the reasons for their decision. Commissioner Nixon objected to making
one lot so much smaller than the other, and observed that the subdivision
ordinance may have been better preserved by making two lots that are only
fractionally less than what is required.
COMMISSIONER PETERS MOVED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY SHAWN MADSEN FOR
APPROVAL OF MADSEN SUBDIVISION, PLAT "B," A TWO-LOT SUBDIVISION
AT 311 EAST 400 NORTH. COMMISSIONER SIMISTER SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL
PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR EXCEPT COMMISSIONER NIXON WHO VOTED NAY. THE MOTION
CARRIED (5-1, 1 ABSENT.)
6. DON DE ST JEOR SUBDIVISION - 755
NORTH 200 EAST - SUBDIVISION DESIGN REVIEW
Mr. Don De St. Jeor introduced himself. Mr. Smith presented this application
for a subdivision design review. He pointed out the location of the parcel
across from the Valley Center Playhouse on 200 East and noted that Mr.
De St Jeor is requesting to subdivide a deep lot behind his home. He noted
that a copy of the deep lot ordinance is included in the staff report.
He asked the Planning Commission to consider whether this application
would comply with this ordinance to allow the creation of a deep lot subdivision.
He presented the subdivision plat.
Commissioner Peters noted that the setbacks for deep lots are different
than regular lots. He asked if a home could be set on this lot if the
required setbacks are taken into consideration. Mr. Smith displayed the
building envelope on an aerial photo of the lot. Chairman Sweeten asked
if the power pole would be moved. Mr. De St. Jeor replied yes, that he
had talked to the power company. The portion of the ordinance that deals
with subdividing with public streets in the foreseeable future was noted
and discussed. Mr. De St. Jeor informed the Commission that he had offered
the property to his neighbor to the north, the Fryers, with no
response. Commissioner Peters noted that better-shaped lots can be subdivided
if Mr. De St. Jeor waits for other development in this area. Mr. De St.
Jeor pointed out that his property borders the canal on the back, which
is a physical barrier to joining with development on the west and south
sides. The canal was discussed.
Commissioner Peters commented that Mr. De St. Jeor would need to plan
to bond for the improvements on 200 East Street, including curb, gutter
and sidewalk. Mr. De St. Jeor replied that he was aware of this requirement.
Commissioner Godfrey asked if the lots would be used to build a home to
occupy or sell. Mr. De St. Jeor replied that the home would be occupied
by his son.
Commissioner Peters expressed concern again about being able to build
a house on the lot. Chairman Sweeten commented that the ordinance requires
that a deep lot not be created if there is any other way to develop the
parcel. He asked if the parcel could be added to development plans of
the neighbor to the north, the Fryers. The parcel's location near the
Pleasant Grove City border was noted. Commissioner Nixon asked if there
is a possibility that the parcel could be part of a boundary adjustment
with Pleasant Grove. He noted that the lots in Pleasant Grove appear to
be smaller. Mr. Smith agreed, and estimated the lots in Pleasant Grove
at 10,000 square feet. He conjectured that the Fryers may be waiting on
their development plans to be able to request a boundary adjustment with
Pleasant Grove. He noted that there would be more lots on their parcel
if they were included in Pleasant Grove rather than Lindon. The future
development of 800 North through this area was also pointed out and discussed.
Mr. Smith added that the location of 800 North, when it is finally determined,
would impact development of neighboring parcels, such as the Fryers, as
well.
Commissioner Peters asked if the development potential in the area is
a logical reason to deny this application for a deep lot. He noted that
there is potential for development if the parcel is added to the Fryer
parcel. Chairman Sweeten agreed and noted that if there was no development
potential on adjacent parcels, there would be no question that this application
meets the intent of the ordinance. Mr. Smith informed the Commission that
boundary adjustments are usually requested when utilities are not available
in an area, and that can be provided by a neighboring city. He noted that
this is not the case in the Fryer situation and that utilities are available
through Lindon. The Commission discussed ways that Mr. De St. Jeor's parcel
might be added to the Fryer parcel for development. Commissioner Nixon
suggested that he would like to have a letter from David Fryer indicating
that he was not interested in buying or developing the land,
either now or in the foreseeable future. Commissioner Peters commented
that circumstances change and a letter does not permanently decide if
development will occur. Commissioner Nixon replied that the Planning Commission
cannot rule on what might happen, but understanding the intent
of the neighboring property owners would help the Commission and Council
in making a decision. He noted that a letter would indicate the circumstances
now and would be protection for Mr. De St. Jeor.
Commissioner Godfrey asked if plans have been made for the Alpine School
District property to the south and west. The Commission, Mr. De St. Jeor
and Mr. Smith discussed the canal and possible development of this parcel.
Commissioner Godfrey suggested that this application for a deep lot depends
on how strictly the deep lot ordinance is interpreted. He observed that
the original purpose of the ordinance is to address situations in which
a property has been landlocked, which is not the case here. He pointed
out that this parcel is undeveloped on three sides, although one side
is bordered by a canal.
Commissioner Peters suggested that the Fryer lots to the north are already
serviced by streets and no additional streets are needed. He asked Mr.
Smith for verification. Mr. Smith replied that, in his opinion, it would
be an aggressive position for the City to take to ask the neighbors to
develop this odd-shaped parcel, especially on the canal side. Commissioner
Nixon again suggested that a statement from the Fryers would give Mr.
De St. Jeor a stronger position for approval. Mr. De St. Jeor noted that
he had failed to get a response from the Fryers. Mr. Smith suggested that
Mr. De St. Jeor should also present this request to the Council for their
opinion.
Commissioner Peters expressed concern about placement and design of the
home for this property, and noted that, at the present time, he could
see no other way to develop. Chairman Sweeten agreed that the request
seems to comply with the requirements of the ordinance, but that a question
remains on the future development issue. Mr. De St. Jeor told the Commissioners
that he would attempt to contact the Fryers and the Alpine School District
as suggested.
7. MEL OLSEN - 1251 EAST TETON DRIVE
- DESIGN VARIANCE
This is a request for a design variance allowing a modification to the
water acceptance and connection requirements for culinary and secondary
water.
Mr. Mel Olsen, of 1237 East 50 North, introduced himself to the Commission.
Mr. Smith reported that this application has two issues. He distributed
copies of the design variance ordinance and displayed an aerial photo
of the parcel. Mr. Olsen commented that the parcel is not part of the
hillside overlay. Mr. Smith informed the Commission that this parcel is
not a platted lot, but a remainder parcel of the Canberra Development.
Mr. Olsen purchased the parcel and would now like to build a pavilion.
He noted that this is a recommendation to the City Council. Mr. Olsen
would like the Commission to consider a request to modify the water requirements
so that he can use his well on the property to irrigate his property.
He will still turn in some water rights to meet the fire flow requirements.
Mr. Smith explained that Mr. Olsen is requesting a variance for connection
to the secondary system and the water share submittal requirements. He
informed the Commission that the City ordinances require connection to
the secondary water system, however, variances to this requirement can
be made under specific conditions. He read the findings section of the
ordinance. He noted that the parcel contains 4.92 acres and includes a
well and groundwater rights. He explained that City staff feels favorable
to this application because pumping and providing secondary water to this
parcel would strain the system, especially where a well is already on
the parcel. He reported that there is no requirement in the ordinances
for connection to the culinary system, but that water share submittal
is required for fire protection.
Mr. Smith presented the site plan, the building plans and elevations
for the proposed pavilion. Mr. Olsen informed the Commission that the
pavilion will be approximately 30 X 52 feet. Commissioner Peters asked
Mr. Olsen's plans on building a house. Mr. Olsen replied that the property
will be used for a family park for now, and that a house may be built
later. He also noted that he wants to move the pavilion on the site plan
somewhat so that it is not visible from Teton Drive. Mr. Smith commented
that the pavilion is open on all four sides, but has an unusual featurea
full basement with kitchen, bathroom and shower. These particular additions
require that the structure be built to meet the building code as a residence
since it will allow family members to spend the night. He observed that
City Code and International Building Code require a limit of one home
per parcel, so building an additional home on the property may be precluded.
Mr. Olsen told the Commissioners that his intent is to build a
park pavilion for his family of twelve children and thirty-four grandchildren
(three additional on the way) to get together for holidays and special
events. He noted that Phil Brown, Lindon's Chief Building Official, has
told him that the structure must meet residential standards. Chairman
Sweeten suggested that if Mr. Olsen wanted to build an additional
home, he might consider subdividing the property. Mr. Smith commented
that access may be a problem because the hillside rising from Teton Drive
is too steep for a driveway. The property is presently accessed by an
easement across City property.
The Commissioners discussed overnight stays of Mr. Olsen's family at
the pavilion. He noted that the basement is necessary to allow his family
to continue get-togethers during inclement weather. Chairman Sweeten observed
that the basement allows a possible use of the pavilion as a residence.
Options to prevent this occurrence and allowing a home to be built were
explored. Mr. Olsen expressed his preference not to subdivide and his
thought that the property will be held in a trust as a perpetual family
gathering space.
Mr. Smith explained city staff's position is that the property
will realize a benefit from the water system in a small way, so participation
in the water system's viability can be done in a small way. The Commissioners
asked questions about the depth and operation of the well on the property
and the procedure for obtaining a well permit. They also discussed the
landscaping planned for the property. Commissioner Nixon asked if the
future home would use the well for culinary water as well. Mr. Olsen replied
yes. Chairman Sweeten verified with Mr. Smith that the City would have
a hard time servicing this parcel with secondary water. Mr. Smith agreed
that it would be a drain to city resources. The Commission discussed the
procedure for granting a variance.
COMMISSIONER NIXON MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE REQUEST BY MEL OLSEN FOR A VARIANCE TO THE WATER SHARE SUBMITTAL AND
SECONDARY SYSTEM CONNECTION REQUIREMENTS OF THE LINDON CITY CODE WITH
THE FINDING THAT IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY IRRIGATION SYSTEM NOT
TO PROVIDE IRRIGATION, AND THAT WATER RIGHTS WILL BE TURNED IN
BASED ON THE FIRE MARSHAL'S AND CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL'S RECOMMENDATION
FOR FIRE PROTECTION. COMMISSIONER PETERS SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT
VOTED IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
8. PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT
A. CANBERRA HEIGHTS LOT 21 GRADING PLAN
Mr. Smith presented the aerial photo of the area and the proposal grading
plan for Lot 21 of Canberra Heights. He noted that this lot has a gradual
slope and that a rambler home is proposed. The only comment from the City
Engineer is that the slope calculation needs verification and that grading
is occurring within twenty-feet of the property lines. He pointed out
some retaining walls and steps. Commissioner Bryner observed that most
of the rock work seemed to be needed to allow the homeowner to
have an open basement. After discussion, THE COMMISSIONERS REACHED A CONSENSUS
TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE GRADING PLAN AS PROPOSED ON CANBERRA
HEIGHTS, LOT 21.
B. CANBERRA HEIGHTS LOT 45 GRADING PLAN
Mr. Smith presented the grading plan for the lot across the streetlot
45 of Canberra Heights. He observed that this home was also a rambler.
He pointed out grading within the twenty-foot perimeter, retaining walls,
and a drainage easement. After discussion, THE COMMISSIONERS REACHED A
CONSENSUS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR A GRADING PLAN AS PROPOSED ON
CANBERRA HEIGHTS, LOT 45.
C. GOODFELLOW CORP. PROPOSED LANDSCAPING
PLAN
Mr. Smith distributed copies of minutes of previous meetings that refer
to the Goodfellow Conditional Use Permit approval. He reported that the
management of Goodfellow has recently made some progress, but that he
had received an application to change the landscaping plan. The business
would like to expand into the old freeway rest stop. The six requirements
for the Conditional Use Permit were discussed and the new proposal was
examined. After discussion, the Commissioners reached a consensus to ask
Mr. Smith to inform Goodfellow Corp. that the original plan must be completed
or a hearing to revoke the conditional use permit will be held. The Commissioners
discussed the noncompliance of this business with the terms of the conditional
use permit and the length of time that the noncompliance has occurred
as the reason for this hard stance. They agreed that now is not the time
to submit new plans and the business is required to complete the original
project as promised.
D. WESTSIDE MASTER PLAN VALUES SURVEY
RESULTS
The Commission discussed adopting design standards for the westside
of Lindon and State Street. Mr. Smith distributed copies of the survey
results and commented on several of the survey responses. He noted that
all the responses from the Council and Commissioners were aggregated into
the total. He reported on the progress of the draft design standards ordinance
and noted that many pictures would be included. He added that the ordinance
will be general in nature and will allow the Commission and Council to
review each submittal for the ones that most closely resemble a "type"
of development. Commissioner Godfrey commented that this approach may
promote a "hodgepodge" look. Mr. Smith replied that certain
design elements will need to be incorporated into each approved development
to reduce that possibility. The Commissioners discussed the atmosphere
promoted by other cities' design criteria.
E. FUTURE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES
Mr. Smith promoted the Certified Citizen Planners program and announced
the next training seminars being held in North Salt Lake and Logan. He
promoted the program as "valuable training" and informed the
Commissioners that land use is still the number one litigation issue for
cities.
F. UPDATE ON TRAIL SURFACE TEST BED PROJECT
Mr. Smith informed the Commissioners that the pathway profiles and routes
have been included in the General Plan and the Lindon City Development
and Standard Specifications Manual, but that an ordinance has not been
approved. The Planning Commission reviewed and recommended a proposed
ordinance to the Council, however, the ordinance was not approved because
of the lack of an adequate pathway surfacing solution. The Commissioners
discussed pathways and trails in Lindon.
ADJOURN
COMMISSIONER GODFREY MOVED TO ADJOURN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AT 9:55 P.M. COMMISSIONER NIXON SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED
IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
APPROVED - May 11, 2004
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