March 10, 2004 Minutes
The Lindon City Planning Commission held
a regularly scheduled meeting on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 7:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Lindon City Center at 100 North State
Street, Lindon, Utah.
Conducting: Dustin Sweeten, Chairman
Prayer: Marilyn Simister
PRESENT
Dustin Sweeten, Chairman
Ron Anderson, Commissioner
Julie Bryner, Commissioner
Gary Godfrey, Commissioner
Evan Nixon, Commissioner
Marilyn Simister, Commissioner
Kevin Smith, Planning Director
Venla Gubler, Administrative Clerk
James McMurray, Planning Intern
Lorenzo Barcellone, Planning Intern
ABSENT
Jim Peters, Commissioner
The meeting began at 7:03 p.m.
1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chairman Sweeten led the Commission, staff and audience in the Pledge
of Allegiance.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The Minutes of the regular meeting of February 11, 2004 were reviewed.
The following corrections were made:
Page 1, Line 26: Replace the word "let" with the word "led."
The Minutes of the regular meeting of February 25, 2004 were reviewed.
The following corrections were made:
Page 2, Line 32: Replace the abbreviation "N" with the word
"North."
Page 3, Line 43, 43: Add the phrase "walk a greater distance from
the parking space to their unit, for instance, to" before the word
"haul."
Page 8, Line 31: Break condition one into a subsection "A" after
the word "UNTIL."
Page 8, Line 34: Reassign condition two as subsection "B" of
condition one.
COMMISSIONER GODFREY MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 11, 2004
AND FEBRUARY 25, 2004 AS CORRECTED. COMMISSIONER SIMISTER SECONDED THE
MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
3. PUBLIC COMMENT
Mr. Ross Childs of 38 West 600 North, pointed out his home across from
the new office buildings on 600 North. He informed the Commissioners that
his lot is zoned half residential and half commercial. He explained that
he has been trying to sell his home for four months and he has found that
no buyer wants to buy this as a residence, but as possible commercial
property. He wanted to know if there is a possibility that the zoning
can be amended to make this lot fully within the commercial zone. He pointed
out his lot on an aerial photo. Mrs. Childs commented that the commercial
zone across the street is restricting their ability to sell and this property
is more viable as commercial property.
Mr. Smith observed that the Childs had approached him about their proposal.
He pointed out that Lindon has about fifty to sixty divided lots along
the borders of the zones. The Lindon City Code says that the more restrictive
of the zones will prevail, so this property is considered residential.
He observed that if this property is rezoned as commercial , then the
property owner will have the ability to put in anything that the general
commercial zone permits. He questioned what the neighboring properties
will then be subjected to and what the Planning Commission sees as the
future of the lots in this area. He noted that a zone change would also
required a general plan amendment.
The Childs' Realtor explained that the Childs' have received an offer
to buy the home if the property can be rezoned as commercial. They will
lose the sale and incur financial risk if the property is not rezoned.
Chairman Sweeten asked if the Childs' have discussed zoning with the neighbors.
Mr. Childs replied that his neighbor to the west has his home for sale.
The neighbor to the east has expressed a preference to sell. He listed
each of the neighbors and told the Commissioners that most want to sell
and move, with the exception of one or two.
The Commission discussed the neighbor's change of attitude on selling
since the public hearing on the zone change for the property across the
street. At that time, the neighborhood did not want their property zoned
as commercial. Mr. Childs agreed that the neighborhood wanted to wait
and assess the impacts. Commissioner Nixon suggested that, instead of
rezoning on a lot by lot basis, the entire neighborhood agree on a rezoning
plan. Commissioner Anderson commented that rezoning is a long process
involving public hearings and may not be solved in time to meet the Childs'
needs. Commissioner Simister commented that the neighbors on the next
street should also be involved in the zoning decisions. Commissioner Nixon
agreed and suggested that the Childs' discuss their concerns with the
City Council also. The Planning Commission reached consensus to have the
Childs contact the neighbors and return with an agreed upon rezoning plan.
Chairman Sweeten asked if there was any other public comment. There was
none.
4. NEW BUSINESS (Reports by Commissioners)
Commissioner Bryner reported some graffiti on a fence bordering a trail.
Mr. Smith replied that he would submit a work order to TAG for clean-up.
This program with the Juvenile Court System was discussed and explained.
Commissioner Bryner asked the result of the request for 200 South that
she had mentioned at the last meeting. Mr. Smith replied that the City
Engineer was looking into possible improvement issues for the City.
5. LEES HOMESTEAD - 190 N. 400 W. -
R2 OVERLAY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
This is a request for approval of an R2 Overlay project consisting of
two triplexes on a X 1.4 acre parcel.
Ms. Joy Lee of 594 North Locust reported that she had worked out an
agreement with Mr. Griffith on the fence issue from the last meeting.
She will be installing a wood-grain vinyl fence two-feet onto her property
to allow for maintenance and protection from the horses. Chairman Sweeten
asked Mr. Griffith if he was comfortable with the agreement. Mr. Griffith
replied yes.
Ms. Lee reported that she had contacted BFI about the location of the
garbage enclosure and pointed to the location at the end of the drive
that they feel will be conducive to collection truck operation. She also
pointed out the addition of parking spaces to the front unit.
Chairman Sweeten asked about the angle in the driveway. Ms. Lee replied
that she thought that was what the Planning Commission wanted. Commissioner
Nixon commented that the driveway would be better if it was parallel,
as it runs west, to the north property line and then jogged north
so that it adjoined 400 West between the houses across the street. He
drew the suggested alignment on a map. Ms. Lee replied that she would
add this alignment to the site plan.
Ms. Lee noted that she had put more windows on the west side and added
sheds for the units under the roof overhang on the east side. The sheds
are 7 X 4 feet in size. She also informed the Commissioners that the buildings
will be finished with stucco and rock. She tendered pictures of a project
that used these colors. The Commission expressed favor to these proposals.
Commissioner Anderson asked about her plans for the fence. Ms. Lee replied
that she planned vinyl on the north and south property lines and chain
link on the east. Commissioner Nixon asked about the portion of the lot
behind the existing house. Mr. Lee replied that this portion will be included
as part of the development on the plat, but will be fenced off with a
gate access. She plans to use this portion of the lot for storage and
animals.
Ms. Lee commented that she has considered moving the fence in front of
the ditch, instead of piping the ditch. After discussion with the Planning
Commission, she decided to pipe the ditch because of access issues.
Commissioner Nixon asked what restrictions on storage of personal property
on the lot portion behind the existing house the Lindon City Code required.
Mr. Smith replied that as long as the storage does not become a nuisance,
there are no restrictions. The Commission discussed storage and commented
that a screening fence and landscaping would help.
Commissioner Nixon asked about the new parking stalls. Ms. Lee pointed
out the location of two stalls near the front unit. Mr. Smith commented
that this is just pads, and no carports. Commissioner Godfrey commented
that he preferred that cars not be in front of the units. Commissioner
Nixon observed that two cars in front was no worse than any other home
in Lindon. Ms. Lee noted that putting the parking here would help solve
the issue of residents blocking the driveway to be close to their door
to load or unload their vehicle.
Chairman Sweeten asked if there was any public comment. Mr. Griffith
requested verification that the portion of the lot behind the existing
home could not be sold separately. This was confirmed. He asked about
upgrading an old shed in this portion of the lot. He was told that this
is not required. Chairman Sweeten asked if there was further comment.
There was none. Commissioner Godfrey expressed appreciation to Ms. Lee
for her efforts to work with the neighbors to address the issues and concerns.
COMMISSIONER SIMISTER MOVED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY JOY AND FRED LEE
FOR APPROVAL OF LEES HOMESTEAD, A SIX-UNIT R2 OVERLAY PROJECT AT 190 NORTH
400 WEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THAT VINYL FENCING BE SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAT ALONG THE NORTH
AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINES;
2. THAT THE IRRIGATION DITCH BE PIPED ON THE EAST SIDE AND CHAIN LINK
FENCE BE PUT ON THE PROPERTY LINE;
3. THAT THE DRIVEWAY BE ADJUSTED TO ALIGN PARALLEL TO THE NORTH PROPERTY
LINE AS DISCUSSED; AND,
4. THAT THE ELEVATIONS, MATERIALS AND COLORS ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED
(EXHIBIT A).
COMMISSIONER NIXON SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR. THE
MOTION CARRIED.
6. PETERSON WOODWORK - 923 W. 500
N. - SITE PLAN AMENDMENT
This is a request to amend the site plan and allow for the creation of
a second driveway across the existing landscaping.
Mr. Steve and John Peterson were present to address the Commission.
Mr. Smith presented some background material on this application. He noted
that the Planning Commission reviewed this issue for the first time last
November. He displayed an aerial photo of the area and explained that
the owner has constructed a driveway, cut the curb and sidewalk, modified
the storm draining and put an overhead door into the building. He is now
requesting a modified site plan. This issue came to the attention of the
City by a complaint from a neighboring business. He explained that the
storm drain was not constructed correctly in the beginning and has been
a problem for the site a number of years. He noted that the changes have
improved the storm drain, to a degree, but that it does not detain runoff
as required. He explained that the Public Works Department want the curb,
gutter and sidewalk replaced. Chairman Sweeten commented that it is hard
to hold the present owner responsible to correcting the storm drain, but
he expressed an inclination to have the site restored unless the owners
have an attractive plan to retain the changes.
Mr. Steve Peterson explained that his father-in-law bought this building
last summer. The tenants, Meyer & Leichty, had sandbags on hand and
complained of constant flooding. They called a landscaper, who suggested
this solution. He explained that they did not know that they were creating
other problems for themselves. They ran a pipe the full length of the
property to contain the storm water. Chairman Sweeten observed that the
problem is that all of his drainage is passed on to the next business
to become their problem. Mr. Steve Peterson explained that the drainage
was coming into the building and now it goes into the storm drain system.
Commissioner Nixon asked if there was off-site drainage in this area.
Mr. Smith replied no and showed the detention in the area on an aerial
photo.
Commissioner Anderson observed that the reason the curb on 500 North
was painted red is because it is a half-street and no access is allowed
there. Mr. Steve Peterson replied that he was trying his best to handle
the loading problems for his business and pled ignorance. He explained
that they had tried to load out of the south side, but had created a traffic
problem for his neighbors and tenants. He observed that the driveway on
the north side that he had constructed is a loading area only and is not
used for continuous access to the building. Chairman Sweeten observed
that if Mr. Peterson had asked to make the changes in advance, he would
probably been turned down. He added that to leave the site as is creates
a "dangerous precedent." Commissioner Anderson commented that
the Code required a twenty-foot landscaping strip for every business.
Mr. Peterson has modified and mostly removed his. The problem is
that there are other businesses that will point to this and asked why
they can't do the same.
Commissioner Simister asked which issue is considered to be the most
pressing, the drainage or the driveway. Mr. Smith replied that the driveway
is the bigger problem. He acknowledged that although the change to the
storm drain causes stress to the regional storm drain system, staff feels
that 500 North is not designed to handle the traffic problems that are
created by allowing direct access. He added that Public Works would not
have approved a curb cut in this location. Commissioner Simister asked
if there was a way to modify the site to allow the driveway to remain.
Commissioner Nixon commented that he did not feel that this is an option
to consider. Chairman Sweeten agreed that he felt the curb, gutter and
sidewalk should be restored. Commissioner Nixon suggested that the storm
drain can possibly be corrected in the future with a pipe and detention
on the undeveloped property to the south.
Commissioner Simister asked if the door in the building would
be allowed to remain. Mr. Smith replied that the door meets building code
and can remain, but that no access is allowed from 500 North. Mr. Steve
Peterson objected that this creates a traffic problem on the south side
that his tenants complain about. Commissioner Nixon suggested that the
building does not fit Mr. Peterson's needs. Mr. Peterson replied that
he will remain in the building and that the Commissioners seem to have
their minds made up. He left the Commission meeting.
Chairman Sweeten asked Mr. John Peterson about the business opening onto
the south side. Mr. John Peterson commented that the parking lot on this
side is already limited and suggested that further problems will be created
when the neighbor to the south develops this parcel. Commissioner Anderson
suggested that a smaller driveway and access be considered if the landscaping
is restored. He mentioned the possibility of stabilizing the grass so
it can be driven on. Commissioner Nixon pointed out that if each unit
is allowed to have a driveway, a larger problem is created. He noted that
the issue is not just the driveway, but upholding the law. He suggested
that a site plan amendment to allow the pipe to remain might be considered
because the drainage was inadequate.
Commissioner Godfrey asked if the other units had overhead doors. He
wondered if a space could be cleared inside to allow the trailer to be
loaded inside rather than in the parking lot where it obstructs traffic.
Mr. John Peterson explained that they were using the space inside for
assembly and the interior flow does not accommodate loading from this
side. He asserted that they need the rear access. Commissioner Godfrey
asked if it is the intention of the business to back over the landscaping
and use the rear door. Mr. John Peterson replied yes. Chairman Sweeten
observed that more traffic would be obstructed on 500 North than in the
parking lot to the south. Mr. John Peterson agreed that it would be awkward.
He asked what would entice the Planning Commission to allow them to keep
the access on 500 North. He suggested the purchase of a building permit
for the addition of a door to the building, bonding for the curb, gutter
and sidewalk, and a reasonable fine. He requested permission to keep the
access and continue working.
Chairman Sweeten pointed out that allowing the violation to continue
sets a dangerous precedence. Mr. Smith agreed that there were other businesses
in this commercial park that would like to do what the Peterson are doing.
He added that the City cannot accept a fine and ignore a violation. Compliance
is what is needed. He commented that if the violation is not corrected,
the judge is asked to order compliance.
Commissioner Simister asked if the operations inside could be adjusted
to allow them to use the door on the west. Mr. John Peterson replied that
the lease on unit B is coming due soon, and if they can use that unit,
they might be able to bring the trailer loading inside. The Commission
discussed this possibility with Mr. Peterson. Mr. Peterson was advised
to get permission from the Building Department before modifying anything
inside the building.
COMMISSIONER NIXON MOVED TO DENY THE REQUEST BY STEVE PETERSON FOR AN
AMENDMENT TO THE CURRENT SITE PLAN BY ALLOWING THE CREATION OF A SECOND
DRIVEWAY ACROSS EXISTING LANDSCAPING, BUT WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE CITY
ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO MAINTAIN THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL, AT SOME
FUTURE DATE, DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO PUT IN DETENTION, AND FURTHER,
THAT THE OVERHEAD DOOR ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS ALLOWED TO
REMAIN, BUT CANNOT BE USED FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS. THE APPLICANT
IS ORDERED TO RESTORE THE LANDSCAPING, CURB, GUTTER, AND SIDEWALK, UNDER
INSPECTION BY THE CITY, WITHIN NINETY DAYS OF THIS DATE. COMMISSIONER
BRYNER SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
7. LISTON COMPLEX - 240 N 943 W.
This is a request for a design review in the Mountainview Industrial Park.
Mr. Larry Liston introduced himself to the Commissioners. Mr. Smith
pointed out the lot in the Mountainview Industrial Park and commented
that there are a few issues to discuss. He noted that the original plan
was to put the building on the property line, however, the Pheasant Hollow
Park lies behind this property facing 800 West. There are no specific
regulations for public facilities, but since this is a conditional use
permit, staff would like to see the building moved about 20-25 feet from
the property line. Commissioner Nixon asked what type of building the
applicants plan. Chairman Sweeten asked if the setback was recommended
for fire protection reasons. Mr. Smith replied that fire protection is
one reason, but then explained that Pheasant Brook Park is only partially
developed and that a ballfield is planned for the area bordering this
parcel. He commented that the park has a block wall that will be extended
to eventually surround and delineate the whole park.
Commissioner Nixon asked if the applicant plans a metal building. Mr.
Smith replied that this was the first plan, and that it would require
architectural detail as per the Lindon City Code. Commissioner Simister
expressed the opinion that the building should be moved away from the
property line. Chairman Sweeten observed that the setback between a
commercial zone and a residential zone is forty feet. Mr. Smith replied
that the park is zoned "public facilities." He added that the
City does not want to be unreasonable, but feels that moving the building
from the property line about 20-25 feet would resolve maintenance issues
on the building and the fence.
Commissioner Godfrey asked the intended use of the building. Mr. Liston
replied that the building will house the family-owned business, a design
and remodel business. He told the Commission that the building would mostly
be used for storage and that they were considering a block building instead
of a metal building. The Commission discussed the composition of the building,
the height, and a setback. They noted that the S & L Landscaping building
on Center Street would be similar. Mr. Smith brought up the aerial and
the distance to the wall was measured. He asked if the Commission and
Mr. Liston were comfortable with the recommended twenty-five feet. Mr.
Liston replied that he was willing to setback twenty-five feet, especially
if the city participates on the construction of the wall as mentioned
in DRC. Councilmember Bayless was asked her opinion. She replied that
she felt that the Council would also request the setback. Chairman Sweeten
asked if there was any public comment. There was none. The Commissioners
thanked Mr. Liston for his willingness to work with the City.
8. ALL-AMERICAN GYMNASTICS - 19 S.
1400 W.
This is a request for a design review of All-American Gymnastics facility
in the LI zone immediately east of I-15.
Mr. Ken Coleman of M13 Construction was present. Mr. Smith displayed
an aerial photo of the area and pointed out the subject parcel next to
the new Graphik buildings. He observed that this lies in the Light Industrial
zone, which allows for special education uses if certain criteria are
met. He mentioned that this business would fall into the same classification
as Flyerz Cheer Gym on the other side of the freeway. He commented that
the applicants would like the Planning Commission to look at the plans
and give any feedback or concerns they have on the project.
Commissioner Nixon asked if the landscaping requirement for I-15 is met
in this design. Mr. Smith pointed out the increased parking capacity of
this site to meet the requirements for a gymnastics school, and informed
the applicant that the zoning ordinance requires ten feet of landscaping
along I-15 and twenty feet on 1200 West. He noted that the applicant is
proposing a metal building that will be set back from the freeway and
that the sides of the building must be treated architecturally to meet
the requirements. He explained that the building must be able to be converted
to an industrial use if sold in the future. Commissioner Anderson asked
about requirements for the T-zone overlay and whether this fell into the
mixed commercial zone rather than the light industrial. Mr. Smith brought
up the zoning map and showed how this particular parcel falls in the light
industrial zone rather than the mixed commercial a little further north.
He commented that he would check the T-zone requirements in the code.
Commissioner Nixon commented that it appeared that the site could accommodate
the ten-feet of landscaping. Commissioner Godfrey agreed. Commissioner
Anderson observed that the parking for this site would be better than
if it was in a complex, because it is not shared. Mr. Coleman agreed and
noted that not many parents stay to watch lessons. Most of the parking
will be empty most of the time. The Commissioners asked if competitions
will be held here. Mr. Coleman replied that this is a possibility. Commissioner
Nixon suggested that Mr. Coleman bring pictures and elevations of the
building for the site plan review. Mr. Coleman replied that the building
is planned to be a flat-panel construction with architectural treatment.
Commissioner Bryner asked if this business is moving from Orem, or opening
an additional location. Mr. Coleman replied that they will be moving.
Commissioner Nixon asked if the building would be two story. Mr. Coleman
replied yes, the ceilings need to be high for gymnastics, and the front
of the building would have an office on the second floor. The Commissioners
discussed the proposal and commented that it looked like a good project.
9. NOAH'S 24-HOUR SPORTS COMPLEX
This is a request for a design review of Noah's 24-hour Sports Center
located on the future 700 North near the new I-15 Interchange.
Mr. Bert Thomas, Mr. David Bell, and Mr. Bill Bowser introduced themselves.
Mr. Smith presented this application for a design review for a 24-hour
sports center near the new I-15 Interchange. He displayed an aerial of
the proposed property and noted that the zoning is general commercial.
He explained that the future 700 North is planned for this area, and showed
the road master plan. He commented that the master plan is intended to
show a general location for roads and not a specific location. He noted
that the applicants will construct a portion of 700 North as part of this
project. He displayed the proposed site plan and commented that the site
must meet the landscaping and parking requirements, but that the applicants
would like the opinion of the Planning Commission on the project and some
direction on planning for 700 North. He explained that this is a private
recreational facility and presented a picture of a barn in Park City as
representative of the kind of building that will house the facility.
Mr. Bowser explained the operation of this automated sports facility.
He commented that the facility will be booked online and a code given
to open the doors. The facility will be staffed 24-hours a day. He explained
that he has done the software for several other public facilities, but
this will be his first private facility. He showed the proposal for the
curve in 700 North and commented that this alignment makes the remaining
parcel to the north more viable as a commercial parcel. Commissioner Nixon
commented that the road must connect with the Pleasant Grove section of
this road also. Mr. Smith agreed and commented that this project would
help open the road.
Mr. Bowser pointed out that the curve in the road is reflected in the
site plan to make it more interesting. He commented that the goal is to
preserve a "farm-like atmosphere." Commissioner Nixon agreed
that this alignment would work for him, but expressed concern that the
alignment also needs to work for his neighbors. Mr. Bowser showed how,
in his opinion, the alignment he proposes would work for the development
to the west. Mr. Dean Blackhurst commented that Lindon needs to do what
is best for them and Pleasant Grove will connect to it and take it to
the freeway. Commissioner Anderson commented that it seemed to be a great
compromise for all the property owners.
Chairman Sweeten asked who would build the roads. Mr. Smith explained
that the developer would participate, but that the road is a team effort
between Lindon and Pleasant Grove. Mr. Bowser explained that before much
more planning can be done, the curve of 700 North must be determined.
He observed that his plan will incorporate a good first impression of
Lindon in the heavily landscaped property with water elements. He expressed
the opinion that this project would help initiate the growth in the area.
Commissioner Nixon suggested that architectural standards like what is
envisioned for State Street need to be determined in this area also. Commissioner
Simister commented that the vision for 700 North includes a pedestrian-friendly
atmosphere with parking behind the buildings. Mr. Bowser felt that this
vision could be incorporated into his site and suggested that the one
shown is just to show maximum parking. Commissioner Bryner asked about
the view of the project from the freeway. The distance from the freeway
was shown to be quite far.
Commissioner Nixon commented that the Planning Commission and Council
have been discussing an architectural theme for State Street. He expressed
the opinion that a farm theme for this area seems appropriate. Commissioner
Godfrey expressed the opinion that a farm theme will be well received
by the citizens of Lindon.
Mr. Bowser asked if the Commission could help him get a definitive road
alignment. He noted his time limitations. Mr. Smith suggested that he
could take the proposal to Pleasant Grove tomorrow to continue the discussion
already in progress on this issue. Mr. Bowser explained that they had
approached Pleasant Grove on the utility issue. The utility service in
the area was discussed. Commissioner Godfrey commented that this may be
good catalyst for the area. Mr. Bowser asked for a realistic time frame.
Mr. Smith replied that it could be two months to two years. The Commissioners
discussed the plans for the project with the applicants.
10. PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT
1. Westside Master Plan Values Survey
Mr. Smith explained that he was close to a rough draft on this project,
but wanted to prioritize some goals before it is finalized. He asked Planning
Intern James McMurray to present the survey. Mr. McMurray distributed
the survey and explained that he wanted each Commissioner to rank their
response to the statements from one to five with a one being "strongly
agree" and a five being "strongly disagree." He also asked
them to rank the statements in order of importance from one to six. The
Commissioner spent a few minutes filling out the survey. Mr. Smith spent
a few minutes signing up new Commissioners for the American Planning Association.
ADJOURN
THE COMMISSIONERS REACHED CONSENSUS TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 10:01
P.M.
APPROVED - March 24, 2004
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