May 28, 2003 Minutes
The Lindon City Planning Commission held
a regularly scheduled meeting on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 in the
Lindon City Center Council Chambers at 100 North State Street, Lindon,
Utah.
Conducting: Bruce Carpenter, Chairman
Prayer: Bruce Carpenter
PRESENT
Bruce Carpenter, Chairman
Lori Atchison, Commissioner
Jim Peters, Commissioner
Dustin Sweeten, Commissioner
Kevin Smith, Planning Director
Linda Agler, Secretary
Dustin Huler, Planning Intern
Suzanne Morgan, Planning Intern
ABSENT
Evan Nixon, Alternate Commissioner
Ron Anderson, Commissioner
Lucky Morse, Commissioner
Marilyn Simister, Commissioner
Lindsey Bayless, Councilmember
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the regular meeting of May 14, were reviewed. The following
corrections were made:
Page 1, Line 11,15: Move "Commissioner Peters" from the present
list to the absent list.
Page 3, Line 13: Delete the word "high."
Page 3, Line 21: Replace the word "location" with the word "located."
Page 5, Line 14: Add the word "is" after the word "whatever."
Page 5, Line 28: Replace the word "is" with the word "in."
COMMISSIONER SIMISTER MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 28, 2003
MEETING AS CORRECTED. COMMISSIONER SWEETEN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED IN FAVOR.
2. PUBLIC COMMENT
There was no public comment.
3. NEW BUSINESS (Reports by Commissioners)
Commissioner Sweeten reported that Utah Auto Sales had six vehicles
parked on State Street and four more cars on Center Street and 60 North.
Kevin replied that some of the cars may be customers picking up their
plates, but would remind the owner of the parking situation. There was
discussion of landscaping plans for the corner of State Street and Main
Street. Discussion was also held on Skip Dunn's empty lot on State Street
that has been turned into a park and sell.
4. MAPLE MANOR, 514 NORTH LOCUST AVE. -
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
This is a request for Planning Commission approval of a new assisted living
center in the R1-20 zone.
Planning Director Kevin Smith presented the request to the Commission.
He explained that this facility is different than a rest home or convalescent
home, thus it will need to be considered under the Compatibility Standard.
The facility would accommodate 50 beds. He noted that, as a comparison,
The Seville in Orem has 300 beds. The building elevations meet the requirements
of the zoning ordinance. A copy of the Compatibility Standard was given
to the public in attendance.
Chairman Carpenter observed that he will ask the applicants to present
their request first and then he will open the discussion to the public.
He asked the public not to be redundant with their questions and concerns.
Scott and Michele Farrer introduced themselves as the owners of the potential
development. Mr. Farrer explained they have grandparents that are in need
of such a facility. They found, while researching different facilities
in the area and the state, that the elderly have a much better social
life and transportation opportunities in these facilities. The care facility
will do some of the menial tasks that the patients cannot do themselves,
such as cooking and cleaning. It will be quiet, well maintained, and active
inside all the time. At first the applicants did not feel Locust Ave would
be a good location, but as they looked into it further, they felt the
collector street already has many senior citizens, and this center would
not contribute to more traffic.
Mr. Farrer informed the Commission and public that it is not required
by the State to have a nurse at such a facility. There will however, be
one or two CNA's on the staff. A cafeteria will also be on the site. Discussion
ensued regarding the number of parking stalls provided for delivery pickups
and drop-offs. Commissioner Peters inquired as to the parking spaces in
the setback. Mr. Smith responded that they meet the requirements of the
City Code, however, the Commission may want to see if headlights from
cars will be a problem shining into people's yards from the parking lot.
The design of the building shows a cupola and a height concern was mentioned.
Mr. Richard Gardner, the architect, said the cupola height of 28' was
not as high as a two-story building. Mr. Smith remarked that the maximum
height allowed is 35'. Fencing around the site was another issue discussed
with regards to the design. Mr. Farrer said there will be a vinyl fence
replacing the existing fence and a concrete retaining wall will be erected
in the back so residents cannot see down into the complex.
Mr. Farrer felt the center would be compatible with its surroundings.
He listed some factors to consider on his application: 1) He owns the
property and will make sure the site is properly maintained; 2) He has
looked at other facilities in Utah County and most are located within
residential zoning and not in "State Street" commercial zones;
3) The facility will utilize all the property if proper setbacks and requirements
are met. He explained that there is ample property for the site and it
gives a "homey" look to the residential location as well as
calmness and peacefulness. He added that the impact will not be noticeable.
Commissioner Peters asked what would happen if the patients needed extra
care. Mr. Farrer said that, since this is only a level one and two facility,
hospice can come in for a certain amount of time to care for a patient.
The center would be bound by the state and has no plans for more extensive
care.
Chairman Carpenter then opened the meeting to public comment. Sarah Hall
asked what the master plan and zoning is for Locust Avenue. Mr. Smith
replied that the use is residential, which includes "home occupations."
A 7-Eleven, however, cannot be put in this zone. He noted that the Locust
Avenue is a 66' street right-of-way with 50' of asphalt, curb, and gutter.
The street is designed for speeds to 35 mph and posted at 25 mph. He added
that the school bus garage is located off Locust presently, but the Alpine
School District is planning to move this facility. He noted that the City
has little say in what the school district does.
Amy Jones, a resident, living across the street from the potential site,
discussed the number of CNA's required. She told the Commission that her
son is a CNA and he has told her that the requirement is one nurse to
eight people. She suggested that staffing and parking should be more of
a concern to the city. Ms. Jones explained that her father-in-law has
been in nursing homes in Pleasant Grove and Provo. When holidays arrive,
these places become very busy and usually visitors have to walk at least
two blocks away. She is concerned about the additional traffic in her
neighborhood. She also expressed concern about the safety of Alzheimer
or similar type patients, with the number of semi-trucks going in and
out of the site for deliveries. Mr. Farrer responded that he would not
dispute Ms. Jones' son's nurse to patient ratio, but he has attended orientation
and has been told there is no ratio for CNA's to patients. An RN will
assess patients on a weekly basis. He said there will be monitors for
the patients and they will not be wandering out into the street. This
facility, as he mentioned earlier, will be handling light care patients
and is not allowed to take Alzheimer patients.
Mike Marchbanks, a resident of Lindon, stated his sister-in-law's property
backs to the proposed site and they think it will be wonderful. He felt
residential areas are the perfect places for these types of centers. He
mentioned he has had family members die in their homes because they didn't
have places such as this. Mr. Marchbanks also stressed there are not enough
facilities such as this in Lindon to care for the elderly. When he has
viewed other facilities such as these, the parking stalls provided seem
to be "overkill." The areas are quiet and he feels they add
to the amenities in the community.
Joy Lee, a resident on Locust, claimed that she has no problem with the
building, but does with the density. She reported that another applicant
was denied a permit to build twin homes due to the density and wondered
why the Commission was considering this request which would add much more
than a twin home. Mr. Smith reiterated that this request does not fall
under the same requirements as a home, duplex or condo. Disaster management
was mentioned as another concern of nearby residents. Mr. Farrer replied
that the state requires a plan for disaster, food, exits, etc.
Susan Holyoak asked for clarification of the care facility levels, and
asked how incapacitated a patient can be in a level one facility. She
was concerned that if hospice was caring for some of the patients, that
this would create more traffic into and out of the facility. She also
raised the issue of delivery doors and entrances. Mr. Farrer replied that
the deliveries will be made through the front doors. He said there will
also be a kitchen facility, TV area and commons area. He went on to say
the level of care for these patients is very low. They will be patients
with very minimal needs–someone to cook for them, help them dress,
bathe and remember their medicine. Occasionally one may fall and need
help getting up, but they have full mental capacity and enjoy interacting
with others, playing games, watching tv, etc.
Mr. and Mrs. Storstad, residents, felt that all issues have not been
covered. They expressed concerns about the additional traffic created
by the need for support technicians, such as occupational therapists.
They also questioned whether the facility would affect property values
in the neighborhood. They agreed that there is a need for a facility such
as this, however, they suggested that this location may not be the proper
place.
Jenny Anderson asked if the site would become office space if the center
should fail. She was assured that the zoning was not changing from residential
to commercial. Chairman Carpenter replied that the statutes won't allow
them to base approval on the viability of a business. Mr. Smith added
that there are certain types of facilities requests, such as those serving
residents with disabilities, that are governed under the federal statutes
that the City has no control over.
After more discussion, Mr. Farrer again summed up his reasons that the
city should approve the request and stated that, if needed, the city can
put conditions on the application. A letter was presented from Bob Moore,
Planning Division Manager for Orem, stating that once approval was given
for a similar facility in their city and built, they found the residents
had no problems with it. A resident asked if the city could put the item
on hold and have a residential zone change done. It was also asked if
the city had a responsibility to the loss of value to others because of
approval for a piece of property. Commissioner Sweeten responded that
property values are only one consideration the Commission must make amongst
many others.
Mr. Gary Otterstrom felt that citizens need to receive more notice.
He expressed his dislike over the new Walmart coming to Lindon, and felt
it would be nice to have some quaint businesses in Lindon instead. He
also was worried about the unfinished state of the Locust Avenue (curb,
gutter and sidewalk), stating that the City needs to handle these needs
first. Commissioner Peters commented that the City held several meetings
regarding the Walmart issue and only one person opposed. He also mentioned
that this person was not a resident. He added that usually people do not
attend the meetings unless they are opposed to an agenda item. Mr. Smith
commented that the City does not build streets or add improvements, and
that developers are responsible for installing curb, gutter and sidewalk.
He added that the City is improving and repairing streets the best they
can with the resources available. Street widening was brought up.
Paul Lesser, resident in the Green Valley Condominiums, observed that
the nearby residents should be more concerned because they bought into
the existing neighborhood and now the City wants to change that neighborhood.
He commented that he and his wife support s the idea of the facility,
but would like to review the zoning ordinances and statutes. He believes
the Farrer's owe the neighborhood something if they plan to change the
neighborhood. He suggested that the Farrer's should, in addition to fencing,
help their neighbors by leveling low areas in their yards. He suggested
that if neighbors all work together, they can help make a nice community.
He wants the Farrers to accept responsibility for the inconveniences their
facility will have on the public.
Chairman Carpenter responded to a resident asking about the maintenance
of the facility. He explained that the Commission and City Council enforce
the conditions set on the property, and reviews the permit when there
are complaints from the residents.
Roger Gillis, President of the Green Valley Homeowners Association, said
all 50 units in the condos are in favor of the facility. He went on to
say the condos look much better than many areas in Lindon and feels this
facility will look just as nice. Russ Johnson, Orem resident, said he
lives near an assisted living facility and feels it is a pleasure to live
near one. He described the facility as two buildings with 17 rooms each,
and asserted that the elderly residents are his neighbors. There have
been few emergencies and traffic concerns. He added that there are seldom
more than five or six cars. He informed the Commission and public that
there is one CNA per building on duty. He commented that the residents
in this facility are part of the community–they just need a little
help. Sarah Hall expressed concerns for children's safety. They cannot
cross the walk to school safely as it is now, they need to have parents
drive them to school.
Mr. Gardner told the Commission that he had addressed the parking requirements
in this design. He noted that Lindon requires one parking space to every
two beds and Orem requires one space to every four beds. He felt that
the parking needs would be met. He addressed the traffic concerns of the
neighbors and observed that these should be considered, but these facilities
are generally good neighbors.
Mr. Marchbanks suggested that those neighbors with concerns visit and
research other facilities. He expressed the opinion that they would find
that the smaller facilities, like Beehive Homes, cannot offer the residents
a social life. Mr. Greg Burton told the Commission that he is looking
forward to having a local facility. He explained some of the differences
between level one and level two facilities. Mr. Farrer commented that
he feels Locust Avenue is a good location. It is a collector street close
to 400 North and 800 North which are also collector streets. He noted
that the number of seniors is going to dramatically increase in the next
25 years and Lindon needs facilities to care for their seniors, especially
with two income families that cannot stay at home to care for their parents.
Commissioner Atchison commented that most of the concerns appear to center
around items 4, 6, and 7 of the compatibility standard. These are the
numbers of employees, transportation and traffic concerns, and parking.
Commissioner Peters suggested that possibly item #1 may apply because
of the commercial nature of the facility. He agreed with items #6 and
#7 and added that #9 may be a concern because of the noise generated by
delivery vehicles. He asked if there were concerns with #10 on special
public utility requirements. Mr. Smith replied no. Mr. Smith observed
that this facility is not a commercial establishment, but a residential
facility that basically rents out rooms with some supplemental personal
care. He did not feel that item #1 applies to this application. Commissioner
Peters expressed the opinion that Locust Avenue is a good location for
this facility. He felt that the proposal fits with the Green Valley Condos
and that the detention pond helps buffer the facility. He expressed concern,
however, with the ten-foot side yard setback. He pointed out the rear
setback of thirty feet of the first condo unit and noted that the side
of the facility would be within ten feet of this fence. He felt that the
setback should be increased, even if the number of units is reduced. He
also requested a traffic study, a survey of other cities to see what restrictions
they may have set upon facilities, a detailed landscape plan, and more
information on the number of employees and staff.
Commissioner Sweeten expressed concern that the facility was too large
for the property, but felt that this is a good use. He also noted that
many of the neighbors have expressed favor to the idea of the facility,
but have concerns about its location in their neighborhood. Commissioner
Peters questioned the density of the area with the condominium project
there. He suggested that the area is already overbuilt. Commissioner Atchison
expressed concerns about the traffic. Mr. Smith observed that he would
be willing to meet with neighborhood representatives to review their traffic
concerns and evidence. Chairman Carpenter asked Mr. Farrer to quantify
how often these facilities are visited by other professions for services
to the residents. Mr. Smith suggested that the City Traffic Engineer can
give the Commission a good idea of the traffic numbers. He also noted
that Mr. Farrer can submit evidence garnered from other facilities. He
suggested that the Commission could also consider a field trip to a facility
to answer questions.
COMMISSIONER PETERS MOVED TO CONTINUE THE REQUEST BY SCOTT AND MICHELE
FARRER FOR MAPLE MANOR, AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER, AT 514 NORTH LOCUST
AVENUE, TO ALLOW THE GATHERING OF MORE INFORMATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING
ON JUNE 11, 2003, CONCERNING:
1. TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND NUMBERS;
2. OPTIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON ASSISTED LIVING CENTERS THAT HAVE BEEN
IMPLEMENTED IN OTHER CITIES;
3. MORE DETAILED LANDSCAPING PLANS;
4. POSSIBLY INCREASING THE SOUTH SIDE YARD SETBACK;
5. THE COMPARISON OF THE PERCENTAGE OF BUILDING/LOT COVERAGE AT THIS FACILITY
TO OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES; AND,
6. THE IMPACT OF THIS FACILITY ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTY VALUES.
COMMISSIONER ATCHISON SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED IN FAVOR.
THE MOTION CARRIED.
The applicant was invited to gather the information requested for the
next meeting on June 11, 2003. There was a short discussion to clarify
a few items for the benefit of the architect, Mr. Farrer, and the neighborhood
representatives present.
5. WESTSIDE RESIDENTIAL MASTER
PLAN DISCUSSION
A presentation will be given to the Planning Commission regarding some
new ideas for housing and commercial development around the new I-15 Interchange.
Mr. Smith and the Commission discussed possibly establishing a density
maximum for the Westside Residential Master Plan. There was also a short
discussion on the State Mandate for Affordable Housing and Lindon's obligations
to its citizens. There were plans made for future field trips to visit
the Legacy Homes and Trophy Homes developments in Lehi.
6. PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT
a. Lot line adjustment in the Lindon Gateway area (approximately 500 South
and 600 West).
b. Potential field trip opportunities in June. (See above)
Mr. Smith informed the Commission that there was a potential development
in the Lindon Gateway area by Home Depot that has requested a lot line
adjustment to square up the property line. He displayed the requested
change. After discussion, the Commission reached consensus to approve
the proposed change.
Mr. Smith reported that the Mayor had asked the Planning Commission to
add the Pledge of Allegiance to their agenda. The Commission was favorable
to this suggestion. Mr. Smith commented that Mayor Ellertson had expressed
a concern about the addressing of homes on 800 West with the extension
of this street to 700 North. He noted that thirteen homes will be affected
if this street is changed to 720 West. He observed that the U.S. Postal
Service is not concerned with the proposed address change and that the
house numbers would not change, just the street number. The Commission
was favorable to the proposed addressing change. Mr. Smith reported that
Pleasant Grove wishes to coordinate with Lindon on the alignment of the
cross streets on 700 North.
ADJOURN
COMMISSIONER SWEETEN MOVED TO ADJOURN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AT 9:55 P.M. CHAIRMAN CARPENTER SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL PRESENT VOTED
IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIED.
APPROVED - June 11, 2003
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