October 8, 2003 Minutes
The Lindon City Planning Commission held
a regularly scheduled meeting on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 in
the Lindon City Center Council Chambers at 100 North State Street, Lindon,
Utah.
Conducting: Bruce Carpenter, Chairman
Prayer: Jim Peterson, Commissioner
PRESENT
Bruce Carpenter, Chairman
Lori Atchison, Commissioner
Evan Nixon, Commissioner
Ron Anderson, Commissioner
Jim Peters, Commissioner
Lindsey Bayless, Councilmember
Kevin Smith, Planning Director
Linda Agler, Secretary
Lorenzo Barcellone, Planning Intern
James McMurray, Planning Intern
ABSENT
Dustin Sweeten, Commissioner
Marilyn Simister, Commissioner
The meeting began at 7:10 PM
1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chairman Carpenter invited all to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
2. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
The minutes of the regular meeting of Sept. 24, were reviewed. The following
corrections were made:
Page 2, Line 35 Replace the word "observed" with "explained"
Page 4, Line 21 Replace the word "all" with "some of"
Page 4, Line 21 Replace the word "and" for "yet"
Page 4, Line 22 Replace the word "to" with "for"
Page 4, Line 33 Insert the word "two" before the word "residential"
COMMISSIONER PETERS MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 24,
2003 MEETING AS CORRECTED. COMMISSIONER ATCHISON SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION CARRIED IN FAVOR.
3. PUBLIC COMMENT
There was no public comment.
4. NEW BUSINESS (Reports by Commissioners)
Commissioner Peters stated that when the extension of 600 North was approved,
a traffic calming device was to be installed. He asked if a traffic study
has to be performed before that can happen. Mr. Smith responded that a
speed reduction to 25 MPH could be posted, but typically a structure is
installed. He said an engineer study will be done. Concerns over children
with handicaps were raised. Commissioner Peters requested a handicapped
child sign for the street. Discussion ensued over high speeds between
200 E to Locust and how the city can respond. Mr. Smith said the speed
trailer can be used on 600 North. Commissioner Peters noted that some
cities are beginning to post speeds at 18 or 22 MPH. Since they differ
from normal speed limits and are more noticeable, drivers tend to slow
down.
Chairman Carpenter inquired about 2 ordinance revisions that were reviewed
at the recent City Council meeting. Mr. Smith responded that the first
ordinance discussion permitting an assisted living center in the residential
and commercial zones has been put back to November 19 in order for Mr.
Smith to gain more information. The Council felt the zone change would
be best suited in this location. The second ordinance is to amend and
revise the residential, single-family section of the Lindon Code. Mr.
Smith said this will most likely be approved as recommended by the Commission.
The heights of the buildings still need to be reviewed.
5. Lexus of Lindon - Larry H. Miller - 550
South 600 West - Site Plan Application
This is a request for approval of a new car dealership next to Home
Depot in the Lindon Gateway area.
Jose Sanchez, Engineer and Mr. Perkins, Surveyor, were present to discuss
the request as representatives of the applicant/owner. Mr. Smith explained
there will be 10 acres remaining to the north and 1 acre to the south,
which will be developed at a later date, after the building and parking
lot are constructed. Concerns were minimal from staff. Lexus does not
want to install the white vinyl fence required of commercial businesses.
Home Depot does not have it installed, however Les Schwab does
in that area. Also the type of landscaping established for the debris
basin might also be of concern to the Commission.
Since UDOT still owns the right-of-way on the old asphalt road south
west of the site, Lexus did not want to include it in their plans. Mr.
Smith said the 1600 North in Orem off-ramp will be rebuilt and will include
a spooey.
Commissioner Peters discussed the detention basin with the applicants
and found the owner wants to put small river rocks from sizes 6"
to 12" in the basin for low water maintenance. Chairman Carpenter
commented that Novell has a similar setup and doesn't feel it's attractive.
Chairman Nixon remarked that it is low maintenance, but agreed it was
not attractive. When asked, Mr. Smith mentioned they had no design criteria
in place for detention basins. Mr. Sanchez commented that shrubbery and
trees could be placed to block the view of the detention basin. The Commission
discussed this suggestion. Enlarging the existing city basin also was
discussed and the applicants assured the Commission they would create
the design of the basin in such a way as to work with the City's expectations,
should they approve it and maintain it. Mr. Smith said he realizes there
is a need to conserve the water, but said the drought will not last forever
and feels the city has adequate supply to meet landscaping requirements.
Commissioner Peters asked the width of the 2 entrances shown on the plans.
The response was 30' on the north and 28' for the south entrance from
edge to edge of curb. The Commission wants to see the south entrance used
jointly with the Park n Ride. They are concerned about another access
being built later which would tie up traffic considerably and lend itself
to hazards. It was decided that other accesses to the Parkway should
be restricted to the shared driveway with the Park-n-Ride.
The fencing requirement was discussed and Commissioner Peters said he
felt since the fence was required at Les Schwab than it should be for
Lexus also. The possible placement of the fence at the entrance only was
also mentioned. Mr. Smith responded saying the way the ordinance is worded
it can be modified. It's original intent was for State Street. Commissioner
Anderson said it would appear more symmetrical with the Les Schwab across
the road, if it was put in. The applicants told the Commission the Lexus
dealerships are typically surrounded with a ballard and chain to protect
the complex. Suggestions to put the fence instead or in front of the chain
were also given.
The elevations were examined and descriptions of the outside of the building
was the last item discussed. The front will be mostly glass and EFIS (similar
to stucco) with the back and service area done in a light natural gray.
After more discussion, COMMISSIONER NIXON MOVED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST
BY LARRY H. MILLER FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR LEXUS OF LINDON, A NEW CAR
DEALERSHIP AT 550 S 600 W AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL
WITH THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS:
1. PROVIDE AN ACCESS EASEMENT FOR THE SOUTH PAD
2. PUT IN THE WHITE VINYL SPLIT RAIL FENCE AS PER CITY STANDARDS
3. NO ADDITIONAL FUTURE DRIVEWAY ACCESSES FOR THE BUILDING PAD TO THE
SOUTH EXCEPT FOR THE EXISTING ACCESS FROM LINDON PARK DRIVE, WHICH
IS SHARED WITH THE PARK-N-RIDE.
4. COMBINE THE LEXUS DETENTION BASIN WITH THE CITY DETENTION BASIN ON
THE NORTH WEST CORNER OF THE MILLER PROPERTY. IF THIS TURNS OUT TO BE
UNDESIRABLE FOR THE CITY THEN LANDSCAPING SHALL BE REQUIRED CREATING AN
AESTHETICALLY PLEASING LOOK FROM I-15
COMMISSIONER ATCHISON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED IN FAVOR
5 TO 0.
6. LINDON LEXUS, PLAT "A" - 550
SOUTH 600 WEST - PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
This is a request for a one lot commercial subdivision in the Lindon
Gateway area.
Most of the issues and concerns were covered in the previous item. This
request is to create the actual lot to accommodate the dealership. Chairman
Carpenter noted the easements might shift if the storm drain is changed.
Commissioner Nixon asked if something could be written on the plat that
an additional driveway is not to be installed on the site. Mr. Smith answered
yes.
COMMISSIONER NIXON MOVED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY LARRY H MILLER FOR
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR LINDON LEXUS, PLAT "A",
A ONE LOT COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 550 S 600 W AND RECOMMENDED
APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS;
1. STORM DRAIN EASEMENT AND FACILITIES SHOULD BE COMBINED WITH THE EXISTING
CITY FACILITIES WHERE POSSIBLE.
2. A NOTE SHOULD BE RECORDED AGAINST THE NEIGHBORING 1.5 ACRE PARCEL TO
THE SOUTH OF THE DEALERSHIP (OWNED BY MILLER PROPERTIES) INDICATING THAT
THERE SHALL BE NO FUTURE ADDITIONAL ACCESS ON 600 WEST FOR THAT LOT.
COMMISSIONER PETERS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY
IN FAVOR. 5 TO 0
7. UTAH PACIFIC BRIDGE & STEEL
- CENTER ST. GENEVA RD -SITE PLAN AMENDMENT
This is a request to add an out building to the existing site to cover
a portion of a rail spur.
Mr. Smith presented the information on this request. The structure will
be a metal building at the rear of the existing yard. Buck Robinson, applicant
said it will be an inspection building open at each end with plastic interlock
doors.
Commissioner Anderson wondered about the landscaping since Martin Snow
was not forced to landscape his addition. Mr. Smith said he really wasn't
sure at what size of an addition the landscaping would need to
take place. Since there is no frontage and the lot is basically landlocked
this addition does not have to be landscaped. Commissioner Nixon felt
that something should be designated for this kind of situation so no one
in the future has a problem with how other additions were handled in the
past, with regards to the landscaping issue.
COMMISSIONER PETERS MOVED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY UTAH PACIFIC BRIDGE
& STEEL, LOCATED AT CENTER STREET AND GENEVA ROAD, TO CONSTRUCT AN
OUT BUILDING TO THE REAR OF THEIR EXISTING STORAGE YARD. COMMISSIONER
ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
The following two items were switched in their order to accommodate Keith
Leavitt.
8. PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Hillside Ordinance Grading Requirements.
Mr. Smith introduced this item. Keith Leavitt, resident, wants to build
a detached garage first on his lot in King's Peak Dr in Canberra Heights,
then work on his house. A grading plan is required, said Mr. Smith, but
since the house is not built yet, the grading cannot be done, so he seeks
approval to proceed with the garage, which will be used as his office.
Mr. Smith said there are no zoning issues and very little cuts and fill.
The lot is fairly flat, not as steep as some in the Subdivision, commented
Mr. Leavitt.
Setbacks were discussed for an accessory building. A garage need
only be 3' from the property line if there are no utility easements, unlike
a house which needs a 20' setback. Chairman Carpenter questioned if Mr.
Leavitt will be bringing the setback and grading issues before them. Mr.
Smith assured him he would. The Forest Service owns the property so Mr.
Smith felt the request fits well in this situation.
Mr. Leavitt discussed his proposed home to be a 1-1/2 story style pushing
the 35' height limit. He said the structure will be country looking. Commissioner
Nixon commented that the accessory building should be shorter than the
house. Mr. Smith said this structure can not be used as an accessory apt.
The Commission gave their approval for Mr. Leavitt to build his garage
first. No motion is necessary.
9. WESTSIDE RESIDENTIAL MASTER
PLAN
Staff will present information gathered from the photo survey.
Mr. Smith introduced the 2 Planning Interns for Lindon City, James McMurray
and Lorenzo Barcellone. He said they will be giving the presentation tonight
on the Westside Residential Master Plan. He went on to say they have collected
photo contrast images throughout the Valley and the Salt Lake region,
which were scored by Planning Commissions and City Councils. Mr. Smith
said after the Commission reviewed these, they can begin thinking about
what they want to see on the west side of Lindon near the new interchange
and if more photos are needed or any other means to help them make some
decisions, the interns will pursue those means.
Mr. McMurray began showing the photos on an overhead screen. He said
there were definite themes in what ranked high and low. Some photos consisted
of similar features but were ranked differently depending on how the features
were combined. The features included public facilities, open space landscaping,
architectural features, public lighting, pedestrian friendly, higher density
and mixed use.
Open spaces, and architectural features such as gazebos in parks, large
porches on homes and nice landscaping played a big role in many of the
highly ranked photos.
Density is a big issue, Mr. McMurray stated, but can be nice if done
well with lots of open spaces.
Higher density, he explained, sometimes sustains benefits such as increased
pedestrian activities, contributing to improved health, lower crime and
a greater sense of community. Economic vitality and lower traffic impact
were also named as benefits.
Mr. Barcellone discussed New Urbanism and Density which have 2 common
patterns; traditional and transit-oriented. He reviewed the residential
design of Saratoga Springs with side views of homes instead of traditional
frontal views. He showed a variety of housing arrangements and discussed
traffic issues and future mass transit - commuter rail. He said the walking
distances of approximately 1/4 of a mile to the station may not be a problem
for most if the walk has shops and sites along the way, as opposed to
walking across a large parking or paved area.
He explained that trees in old areas are usually large and although the
areas may be a bit run down, it is not noticed as much because of the
size of the trees, where newer homes with smaller trees do not hide old
cars and junk laying around the homes.
Mr. Barcellone displayed his sketches of how he sees the area near 1700
W 700 N in Lindon. He showed large blocks with residential housing, open
space parks, and pedestrian walkways to avoid traffic while walking to
schools in each block. Then in close proximity, the commercial and parking
areas with plazas in interiors of neighborhoods where housing may be located
above some shops. He said service alleys laid with brick can also be an
attractive addition to some of these areas.
Mr. Smith presented sketches by Kennetter Design, a professional design
company, which reiterated similar features as Mr. Barcellone's such as
single-family housing, condos, retail shops, possible round-a-bouts, and
urban loft retail.
Commissioner Nixon wondered if these type of neighborhoods would work
without something as a center like a college. He said he would like to
have more pictures to review, but would also like to do a field trip where
they can see some of these designs in place. Mr. Smith said that could
be arranged and would like to issue each of the Commissioners a camera
to use while they are driving of things they liked as well as some bad
examples.
ADJOURN
THE COMMISSIONERS REACHED CONSENSUS AT 10:03 P.M. TO ADJOURN THE PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING.
APPROVED - October 22, 2003
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